On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have -- but I wrote my first program in 1969, and first got paid
wow u are a true hacker indeed :)
MVS?
> to program in 1976. Remote access wasn't all that common in those
1 year after I was born! :)
yah i heard in good ole' days how u had to work with huge clunky
vaxes and use punch cards and before that u had to just directly
access main memory through a panel and flip the bits by hand!
this old hard core VMS/NT programmer at work told me today's
programmers do not possess as rigorous a total understanding of
the overall system as programmers of old did. he said back then
it was a necessity to know about some nitty gritty electrical
engineering stuff, nowadays ppl are abstracted so far from
that. maybe he was thinking of just Win programming. I heard C
programming in *NIX lets u get pretty nitty gritty. Hey I will be
taking an intro C class in July and intro C++ in Sept. Can you
recommend any good books/sites? Eventually I wanna learn *NIX
system programming and network programming. And meanwhile pick up
sys admin skills. What is good way for relatively poor person to
learn about networking stuff (the nitty gritty)?
> days, but most of the systems on the other end of the line were
> mainframes -- and a firewall was an explosive bolt to physically cut
> the connection to a remote site in an emergency.
Wow. Was that before the ARPANET and TELENET :)
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