On 8 Jun 2001, at 20:51, Paul D. Robertson wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Young, Beth A. wrote:
> 
> > Should we make home computer users attend a mandatory licensing class and
> > teach them safe computing (getting a drivers license)?  Maybe we should have
> > a ticketing system and if they guilty of 3 network violations, they have to
> > attend class again (the dreaded traffic review course).  Or if all else
> > fails, suspend their access to the network for a year?
> 
> That's a very tempting thing.  All of the professional certification
> courses hope to eschew to be that driver's license-type thing.  However,
> the analogy is fairly apt, as the vehicle manufacturers need to produce
> safer vehicles, the road builders and fixers need to do so well *and*
> people need to drive responsibly.  Each piece of that isn't predicated on
> the others having already been done.

  Pinto, anyone?  Explorer?  Difference, of course, being that unsafe 
computers -- in the DDoS case which is our focus at the moment -- 
tend to do their damage to third parties and not to the 
owners/operators.

  [BTW, I don't think "eschew" is the right word here.  "Aspire", 
perhaps?]
  
> > Now, how do you do that world wide?  It always come down to that final
> > question....How do you get world buy in?
> 
> Peer pressure mostly.  Certainly the whole world has bought in to that for
> BGP advertisements, DNS, and IP addressing, so it's neither without
> precedent nor terribly onerous to expect.

  On the other hand, China, which makes a lot of noise about 
agressively content-filtering all Internet traffic within/across 
their borders, can't seem to get email admins to block relaying on 
their machines....
  I *hope* you're right.

David Gillett


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