No matter how a firewall is configured, they aren't an end all and be all of network 
security.  
Nimda, has a nice benefit of having multiple infection paths, and it's not going to 
get any easier..  
It proves how easy it is for a worm to be built with multiple infection paths, and how 
fast it could 
propagate.  As well as to bypass a unaware or uncaring security.  Remember with Nimba, 
the 
infection paths were, Network Shares, Email, and Websites.  This will not improve as 
Nimba was 
still just a concept virus.  

This will change, as I have heard, there are rumblings and rumours, though none are 
very 
substancial, but on worms that work faster, and have more methods of infection.

And remember there are many ways to defeat the security of firewalls, from either side 
of the 
connection; or a DoS, by killing the firewall or router; or even taking control of the 
firewall or the 
router.  With Firewalls being built on another operating system, you are often, even 
with hardening 
the kernel, leaving the firewall open to other attacks, only because of what might be 
minor flaws in 
the TCP/IP Stack.

How often in the past while has the Cisco IOS, or PIX or Checkpoints FW-1 have had 
notices 
about possible bugs, that could cause a system to be compromised, or at least disable 
services.

Again you need to build a multiple level of protection, and security.  And first and 
foremost start 
with your employees, or co-workers, they are the most dangerous people for your 
network, 
because in many cases they have insecure access to a large part of the network, and 
usually 
have very little in the way of security, or protection from their traffic leaving.  If 
you educate your 
employees this will be less of a problem, from the inside..  
You also want NIDS, to watch the network traffic, and you want HIDS, to verify that no 
changes 
are made to your system.
You should also have a good backup plan, and system updates.
Then and only then worry about a firewall, because if your system is vulnerable from 
the inside it 
is more then vulnerable from the outside, firewall or not.

Jason




On 23 Oct 2001 at 17:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Check to make sure you don't have Nimda. If your firewall and servers are
> configured correctly, they should not be able to shutdown your server.
>  
> Steve Clark
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Also if you are looking for an employee, I may be available soon, so feel free to 
contact me for my resume.

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