The more you describe this, the more it appears to be merely a secondary
affect from those systems with the mis-installed <the novell client
stacks should not be there, right?>, systems infested with nimda worm
code.  What might be interesting and of concern is the external replies
echoing back from those misconfigured systems initial probes for an NDS
server.  Sounds like there well might be open novell servers responding,
which may open a new attack vector for future worm code to also attempt to
abuse.

AFAIK, nimda was not coded to utilize novell protocols as an attack
vector, and the analysis of the code was pretty intensive.  On a
compromised unix system, it is not key that the system might have been
setup with an illegit irc server after compromise, what is key is how the
system was compromised and how to prevent future compromises.  The illegit
irc server is merely a secondary affect of the former.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne


On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Michael Janke wrote:

> Jim Watt wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Ron DuFresne wrote:
> > 
> > }
> > } I suspect this has nothing at all to do with nimda, and has all to do with
> > } someone trying to tunnel IPX through yer firewall, unless there is a new
> > } nimda variant and there has been no news of that.  What seems to place the
> > } icing on the cake, is the netware client on the machines in question.
> > } That and the fact that 524 is NOT a standard known TCP/IP port.
> > }
> > } Thanks,
> > }
> > } Ron DuFresne
> > }
> > 
> > See...
> > 
> >    http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/netware/features/a_ports_nw5_nw.html
> > 
> > It's listed as "ncp" in some systems' /etc/services, probably for "Netware
> > Core Protocol".
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> That is correct. Netware clients >=v4.8 will automatically connect to Netware 
> servers >=v5.0 on TCP port 524.
> If it is IPX tunnel related, then 28 non-mnscu.edu IP addresses are currently 
> trying to tunnel through our firewalls.
> 
> Hmmm...
> 
> I'm still betting that this is nimda on desktops with Netware Clients. We 
> de-wormed a couple of desktops yesterday & they stopped scanning us.
> 
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