If you need an All-in-One Firewall (Packet Filter, Proxies, Virus
Protection, VPN), with very good performance (Network World Germany
Test: Astaro Security Linux outperforms Cisco Pix 515 for VPN by a
factor of 3, for half the price), have a look ontheir homepage and
download the software for a test.

Klaus Schulze

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I haven't been working with Raptor's latest release so much but here are
my 2 pences.

First you should consider if you want to have statefull inspection or
proxy firewall? If you have answer to this question ready you have
allready made your choice.

The next question would be about the required protocols. Are you going
to run any special protocol through the firewall and are these supported
in the products?

Is the organization which is going to monitor/configurate this system
allready using a firewall product or is this the first one? The synergy
of using just one platform enterprise wide is great from management and
security point of view.

Do you need any high-availability features? Cisco has HA inbuild to
product. With Raptor you will need to have 3rd party component (HW/SW)
for this feature.

Are there any financial limits? <grin>. Raptor costs a bit more. However
in the case of pure software product you can reuse your HW. (remember
the TCO)

Do you need to have compatibility with specific product? (for instance
VPN gateway, Cisco is the most compatible thing I know and it even can
be debugged somehow)

If you haven't made your decision yet you can select Raptor because it
has better security.

For those who don't like personal opinions, please stop reading.

............

Here are my list of favourites (just remember that in the case of
security products it is more important that you really know the product
than what bells and whistles are inbuild)

1. Nokia IP-appliance (My manager would shoot me otherwise :-), inbuild
support for dynamic routing protocols ) 2. Stonesoft Stonegate (little
Finnish company, I was working over there so.. nice HA features) 3.
CheckPoint FW-1 (you can do allmost anything, however if you don't know
what to do it could be pain and I haven't enjoyed support from
Checkpoint) 4. Network Associates (PGP/McAfee?) Gauntlet (Version 6 is
nice, Proxy
firewall)
5. Cisco PIX (great for simple evironments, enterprise management
features
immature)
6. Symantec Raptor (Digital, Compaq, Raptor.. Product has suffered to be
sold too many times, I don't know if they have enough technical staff at
Symantec. It is a pity though, they used to have best support of all) 7.
Bridging firewall's. I just hate these, the problem is that I cannot
ever configure these correctly first time and it takes hours of snooping
to get some trickier configurations to work. (or to find out some
kludge) Same thing as with women though, you just can't live without
them..

rgds,
Harri



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Chance Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 16 December, 2001 04:14
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PIX versus Symantec
> 
> 
> I am new to this list so please excuse me if this has
> been asked. I did a few searches that didn't turn much
> up.
> 
> This is an RFC on which solution would be better. I understand things 
> like current infrastructure may have an impact and of course budget. 
> But all of those obvious things aside, which solution has better
> technology? Which has the best feature set? Is there a
> Pro/Con Apples to Apples comparison of firewalls out
> there?
> 
> Also, if someone recommends something other than PIX
> or Raptor, what is it and why?
> 
> Any help that can be provided is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chance Ellis
> 
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