Not to mention such a system doesn't have the ability to log (or do any other
such important tasks).

Paul.

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:10:26PM -0600, Ron DuFresne wrote:
> As far as I can tell, talking with the writer of the article and others
> after it;s release, little testing has been done to determine if such a
> setup can withstand any significant attack or probing in a setting whence
> the traffic loads were more then minimal and or the rules installed were
> also, more then minimal also.  Little testing under stressful conditions
> has yet been preformed to determine is such a device is ready for
> primtetime, YMMV...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ron DuFresne
> 
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Kim, Cameron wrote:
> 
> > So After reading the article, Have you heard of anyone doing this with
> > Solaris or FreeBSD? Or even with a Application layer product like Checkpoint
> > or Raptor? In theory.. It may be possible
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:33 PM
> > To: David Endler
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: running a firewall in halted state
> >
> >
> > yep, been doing it for years. the fun part is explaining to auditors why you
> > are having to reboot the box when they ask you to show you it's config
> > :-)
> >
> > if you can get away with packet filtering and are willing to go without logs
> > it sure eases concerns about vunerable services on the box (the only bug
> > that can bite you is a kernel bug and they are _Very_ rare)
> >
> > David Lang
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, David Endler wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:21:39 -0500
> > > From: David Endler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: running a firewall in halted state
> > >
> > > Here's a link to a Sys Admin Magazine article about how to run a linux
> > > firewall in halted state.  pretty cool idea.
> > >
> > > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1824/sam0201d/0201d.htm
> > > <http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1824/sam0201d/0201d.htm>
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