I dislike seeing a single VLAN switch used for VLANS on different firewall
interfaces - if the switch admin screws up the firewall is bypassed.  When
that happens you get the excuse "but the hosts don't see the spill over
since they are on a different subnet anyway".  Just doesn't give me that
warm fuzzy secure feeling.

Adam

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 4:04 PM
Subject: Antwort: Re: R�f . : Re : DMZ with switch


>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 2.  Is it okay to use a VLAN to implement my DMZ, sharing the switch
> > hardware with my trusted network?
>
> > Also no, for two basic reasons:
>
> > (a) The VLAN feature is not intended as a security barrier; it may be
> > subject to compromise.
>
> Care to elaborate on that, especially wrt Cisco switches  ? I've seen
> this argument every now and then, but usually unsubstantiated.
>
> To the contrary, aside of broadcast domain (and thus fault) isolation
> Security is probably the most prominent argument listed in switching
> vendor literature wrt VLANs (which of course doesn't imply
> the existence of actual security in the first place, but sheds some
> light on its developer's design goals (aka what VLANs are
> "intended" as).
>
> > (b) A large switch with VLANs is often more expensive than two
> > smaller switches.  VLANs are of limited utility unless you are also
> > trunking together multiple switches, in which case they allow you to
> > define a logical division into subnets that is independent of your
> > physical distribution across switches.
> >   But in the case of the DMZ, the logical and physical partitioning
> > of the network really ought to match.
>
> Given a number of other constraints, this may or may not be correct.
>
> If this guy has a good reason to want his DMZ to be a VLAN on a
> Switch cluster, it should be possible to implement it safely, given
> appropriate switching technology and well thought configuration.
>
> Regards
>
> Christoph Weber-Fahr
>
>
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