> > Its not a purpose build firewall and thats all, for me that 
> > is enough.
> 
> What??!?!? Have you ready *anything* about ISA? Saying that 
> it is not a purposely built firewall is like saying Unix is not
> a purposely built enterprise OS. Both statements are so wrong
> on so many levels you can't begin to correct them.

Hey, any product that is build to do a specific or multiple task
can be called purpose build...

To bad it needs a MS OS's though.

If the would come out with a trimmed down OS's especialy for
applications like ISA, then I might change my mind.

For now, the whole solution has just too many unnecesary
layers of code to call it purpose build.

> > If you are going for a dual combination anyway, why not get a real
> > firewall and a real proxy/cache server? ;)
> 
> Because ISA is all of that?

Then why not advice 2 ISA servers, one as a firewall and one as a proxy?
If their own best practices says to use a separate firewall to get the
best performance?

You get the best combination of speed and security when you use the best
of breed products in those ranges...

I agree it is a great proxy which unbeatable functionality.
(within a Microsoft based network)

Depending on the market you focus on, it might be the best solution, for
me its not.

> They might know that ISA is a purposely built, full featured as real
> as it gets firewall ;-)

Stop calling it that, it hurts! ;)
 
> > OS wise? Phah.
> > They build indeed the most supported platforms for applications,
> > unfortunatly.
> 
> Kind of funny hold old Unix with at least twice as much time in use has
not
> been able to grasp that ring... 

Completely different market.
Unix is being used by a minority for specific tasks.

Microsoft flooded the market starting with SOHO with the OS's/Applications
usable and understandable by everywone.

As a developer it's safer to develop applications for Mac OS/Windows than
develop for Unix/BSD based OS's... and that is one of the main strengths.

Yes, they did win the OS war :) But to say it is a good thing...

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