----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Brenner<mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>
To: Igor Gurevich<mailto:iggurev...@gmail.com> ; Pedro C. 
Marijuan<mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es> ; fis<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Fis] Physical Informatics contains fundamental results which 
impossible to get only by physical methods

Dear Igor, Dear Gerhard and Colleagues,

In Igor's summary of his recent work, I read the following absoutely critical 
statement:
" It is shown that the expansion of the Universe is the source of information 
formation, wherein a variety of physical processes in an expanding Universe 
provide information formation." I take this as meaning that the expansion of 
the Universe as such does not produce information.

Gerhard's formulation is slightly different (my paraphrase):
"The first assymetry in energy distribution, following the singularity, is the 
source of information formation".

My question is, therefore, how best to combine these insights. For example, we 
may say that the variety of physical processes are all the consequence of, and 
subsequently reflect, a first assymetry.

It is also interesting to note that the approaches of both Igor and Gerhard 
imply the emergence of information through the interactional impact 
(informational interactions) of fundamental forces on particles, extended by 
Gerhard to somewhat higher levels of organization (life) than Igor.

I look forward to further discussion of these fundamental issues.

Sincerely,

Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: Igor Gurevich<mailto:iggurev...@gmail.com>
To: Pedro C. Marijuan<mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es> ; 
fis<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:47 AM
Subject: [Fis] Physical Informatics contains fundamental results which 
impossible to get only by physical methods

Dear Pedro C. Marijuan,
Dear colleagues,
I send you "The main results of Gurevich I.M. (Physical Informatics contains 
fundamental results which impossible to get only by physical methods)"
and "Igor Gurevich: Main publications in English" .
With best wishes.
Igor Gurevich

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