"The operation of the LHC is safe, not only in the old sense of that word, but 
in the more general sense that our most qualified scientists have thoroughly 
considered and analyzed the risks involved in the operation of the LHC. [Any 
concerns] are merely hypothetical and speculative, and contradicted by much 
evidence and scientific analysis."
Prof. Sheldon Glashow, Nobel Laureate in Physics, Boston University,
Prof. Frank Wilczek, Nobel Laureate in Physics, Massachusetts Institute of 
Technology,
Prof. Richard Wilson, Mallinckrodt Professor of Physics, Harvard University
"The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on. The LHC is absolutely 
safe. ... Collisions releasing greater energy occur millions of times a day in 
the earth's atmosphere and nothing terrible happens."
Prof. Steven Hawking, Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, Cambridge University
"Nature has already done this experiment. ... Cosmic rays have hit the moon 
with more energy and have not produced a black hole that has swallowed up the 
moon. The universe doesn't go around popping off huge black holes."
Prof. Edward Kolb, Astrophysicist, University of Chicago
"I certainly have no worries at all about the purported possibility of LHC 
producing microscopic black holes capable of eating up the Earth. There is no 
scientific basis whatever for such wild speculations."
Prof. Sir Roger Penrose, Former Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics, Oxford 
University
"There is no risk [in LHC collisions, and] the LSAG report is excellent."
Prof. Lord Martin Rees, UK Astronomer Royal and President of the Royal Society 
of London
"Those who have doubts about LHC safety should read LSAG report where all 
possible risks were considered. We can be sure that particle collisions at the 
LHC  cannot lead to a catastrophic consequences."
Academician V.A. Rubakov, Institute for Nuclear Research, Moscow, and Russian 
Academy of Sciences
"We fully endorse the conclusions of the LSAG report: there is no basis for any 
concerns about the consequences of new particles or forms of matter that could 
possibly be produced at the LHC."
R. Aleksan et al., the 20 external members of the CERN Scientific Policy 
Committee, including Prof. Gerard 't Hooft, Nobel Laureate in Physics.
http://press.cern/backgrounders/safety-lhc



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Inviato da Libero Mail per Android martedì, 10 gennaio 2017, 06:09PM +01:00 da 
Louis H Kauffman  lou...@gmail.com :

>Dear Folks,
>It is very important to not be hasty and assume that the warning Professor 
>Rossler made is to be taken seriously.
>It is relatively easy to check if a mathematical reasoning is true or false.
>It is much more difficult to see if a piece of mathematics is correctly 
>alligned to physical prediction.
>Note also that a reaction such as 
>"THIS STORY IS A GOOD REASON FOR SHUTTING DOWN CERN PERMANENTLY AND SAVING A 
>LOT OF LARGELY WASTED MONEY.”.
>Is not in the form of scientific rational discussion, but rather in the form 
>of taking a given conclusion for granted
> and using it to support another opinion that is just that - an opinion. 
>
>By concatenating such behaviors we arrive at the present political state of 
>the world.
>
>This is why, in my letter, I have asked for an honest discussion of the 
>possible validity of Professor Rossler’s arguments.
>
>At this point I run out of commentary room for this week and I shall read and 
>look forward to making further comments next week.
>Best,
>Lou Kauffman
>
>
>>On Jan 9, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Pedro C. Marijuan < pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > 
>>wrote:
>>From Alex Hankey
>>-------- Mensaje reenviado --------
>>Asunto: Re: [Fis] A Curious Story
>>Fecha:  Sun, 8 Jan 2017 19:55:55 +0530
>>De:  Alex Hankey  <alexhan...@gmail.com>
>>Para:  PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>
>>
>>THIS STORY IS A GOOD REASON FOR SHUTTING DOWN CERN
        PERMANENTLY AND SAVING A LOT OF LARGELY WASTED MONEY.
>>
>>On 5 January 2017 at 16:36, PEDRO
          CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ  < pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es > wrote:
>>>Dear
                FISers,
>>>
>>>Herewith the Lecture inaugurating our 2017
                  sessions.
>>>I really hope that this Curious Story is just that,
                  a curiosity.
>>>But in science we should not look for hopes but for
                  arguments and counter-arguments...
>>>
>>>Best wishes to All and exciting times for the New
                  Year!
>>>--Pedro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>De: Otto E.
                          Rossler [ oeros...@yahoo.com ]
>>>Enviado el: miércoles, 04 de enero de
                          2017 17:51
>>>Para: PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ
>>>Asunto:  NY session
>>>----------------------
>>>
>>>A Curious Story
>>> 
>>>Otto E. Rossler, University
                              of Tübingen, Germany
>>>
>>>Maybe I am the only one who
                              finds it curious. Which fact would then
                              make it even more curious for me. It goes
                              like this: Someone says “I can save your
                              house from a time bomb planted into the
                              basement” and you respond by saying “I
                              don’t care.” This curious story is taken
                              from the Buddhist bible. 
>>> 
>>>It of course depends on who
                              is offering to help. It could be a lunatic
                              person claiming that he alone can save the
                              planet from a time-bomb about to be
                              planted into it. In that case, there would
                              be no reason to worry. On the other hand,
                              it could also be that you, the manager,
                              are a bit high at the moment so that you
                              don't fully appreciate the offer made to
                              you. How serious is my offer herewith made
                              to you today?
>>> 
>>>I only say that for eight
                              years' time already, there exists no
                              counter-proof in the literature to my at
                              first highly publicized proof of danger. I
                              was able to demonstrate that the miniature
                              black holes officially attempted to be
                              produced at CERN do possess two radically
                              new properties:
>>>
>>>*  they cannot Hawking
                                evaporate 
>>>*  they grow exponentially
                                inside matter
>>> 
>>>If these two findings hold
                              water, the current attempt at producing
                              ultra-slow miniature black holes on earth
                              near the town of Geneva means that the
                              slower-most specimen will get stuck inside
                              earth and grow there exponentially to turn
                              the planet into a 2-cm black hole after
                              several of undetectable growth. Therefore
                              the current attempt of CERN's to produce
                              them near Geneva is a bit curious. 
>>> 
>>>What is so curious about
                              CERN's attempt? It is the fact that no one
                              finds it curious. I am reminded of an old
                              joke: The professor informs the candidate
                              about the outcome of the oral exam with
                              the following words “You are bound to
                              laugh but you have flunked the test.” I
                              never understood the punchline. I likewise
                              cannot understand why a never refuted
                              proof of the biggest danger of history
                              leaves everyone unconcerned. Why NOT check
                              an unattended piece of luggage on the
                              airport called Earth?  
>>> 
>>>To my mind, this is the most
                              curious story ever -- for the very reason
                              that everyone finds it boring. A
                              successful counter-proof would thus
                              alleviate but a single person’s fears –
                              mine. You, my dear reader, are thus my
                              last hope that you might be able to
                              explain the punch line to me: “Why is it
                              that it does not matter downstairs that
                              the first floor is ablaze?” I am genuinely
                              curious to learn why attempting
                              planetocide is fun.  Are you not?
>>>
>>>For J.O.R.
>>>---------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Alex
                Hankey M.A. (Cantab.) PhD (M.I.T.)
>>Distinguished Professor of Yoga and Physical Science,
>>SVYASA, Eknath Bhavan, 19 Gavipuram Circle
>>Bangalore 560019, Karnataka, India  
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