I know him: his name is God, the meta-observer + meta-actor at the same time. Correct, Bruno? ;-)
best, Plamen ____________________________________________________________ On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Loet Leydesdorff <l...@leydesdorff.net> wrote: > Dear Pedro, Koichiro, and colleagues, > > At the level of observers, indeed, a hierarchy may be involved for the > change of focus (although this is empirical and not necessarily the case). > The communication, however, as a system different from the communicators > may contain mechanisms such as "translation" which make it possible to > redirect. > > Best, > Loet > > ------------------------------ > > Loet Leydesdorff > > Professor emeritus, University of Amsterdam > Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR) > > l...@leydesdorff.net ; http://www.leydesdorff.net/ > Associate Faculty, SPRU, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>University of > Sussex; > > Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ. <http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/>, > Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC, > <http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>Beijing; > > Visiting Fellow, Birkbeck <http://www.bbk.ac.uk/>, University of London; > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Koichiro Matsuno" <cxq02...@nifty.com> > To: fis@listas.unizar.es > Sent: 3/2/2018 6:41:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Fis] Meta-observer? > > On 28 Feb 2018 at 10:34 PM, PedroClemente Marijuan Fernadez wrote: > > A sort of "attention" capable of fast and furious displacements of the > focus... helas, this means a meta-observer or an observer-in-command. > > Pedro, it is of course one thing to conceive of a hierarchy of > observers for our own sake, but quite another to figure out what the > concrete participants such as molecules are doing out there. They are doing > what would seem appropriate for them to do without minding what we are > observing. At issue must be how something looking like a chain of command > could happen to emerge without presuming such a chain in the beginning. > Prerequisite to its emergence would be the well-being of each participant > taken care of locally, as a replenishable inevitable. That is an issue of > the origins of life. The impending agenda is on something general universal > as an object, and yet concrete particular enough in process. The richness > resides within the concreteness down to the bottom. > > > > Apropos, the communications among the local participants differ from > computation despite the seemingly concrete outlook of the latter. > Computation upon the notion of time as the linear sequence of the now > points is not available to the local participants because of the lack of > the physical means for guaranteeing the sharing of the same now-point among > themselves. > > > > Koichiro Matsuno > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > >
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