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Hi Hanno

thanks for that - it doesn't quite fit my scenario but I didn't describe it 
very well. 

Let me try again without reference to a specific message type.

Lets say you have a client FIX Engine which acts, for want of a better term, as 
a multiplexer of messages to end users. So each end user can connect to the 
client FIX Engine, which connects to a sellside FIX engine. The sellside FIX 
engine knows about all the messages it has issued but the client FIX engine 
does not have any persistence at its end. Now a specific end user of the client 
FIX Engine wants to know about his messages and only his mesages. What I was 
thinking was that each end user would have an ApplID which he could effectively 
'register' with the sellside and thus issue a request for just the messages he 
was interested in. What I didn't see was a way to 'register' this ApplID - from 
what I understand this needs to be assigned and known by the sellside. 

cheers
pritam





> Pritam,
> 
> the ApplID is not issued by the client (order submitter) but by the
> central marketplace that wishes to split bulk information into logical
> streams by means of multiple ApplID values.
> 
> Application Sequencing thus needs to be supported by the entity
> receiving the orders. You could support it towards your clients for drop
> copies of Execution Reports. You could assign ApplID values such as "O"
> for orders and "T" for trades (fills) and sequence them accordingly.
> Your clients can then request message sequences from "T" to get drop
> copies of trades.
> 
> It should not replace the FIX session level recovery as this is standard
> FIX engine behaviour. However, you can send gap fill messages on the
> session layer to keep MsgSeqNum values intact and use application
> sequencing to make some of the messages available for recovery on an
> application level, e.g. only "T" and not "O".
> 
> Regards, Hanno.
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a question about application sequencing and whether it would be
> > applicable for a scenario I have.
> >
> > I have a FIX Engine through which a number of clients can connect and
> > trade. If a particular client gets disconnected it may want to re-
> > request certain messages. I thought rather than a resendRequest the
> > application sequencing would be useful here (having seen the
> > presentation at EMEA).
> >
> > So the disconnected application needs to request messages using its
> > ApplID however I have not seen where it can set it.
> >
> > To use messages and fields for a bit more clarity: application A sends
> > an order and received an execution with application sequence number 5.
> > In order to use application sequencing I would have thought that the
> > ApplID 'A' would need to be sent in the order to be returned in the
> > execution. The later if application A got disconnected and
> > reconnected, it could query for the last execution sent for
> > application A.
> >
> > I am aware that OrderStatusRequest could possibly applied in the above
> > example but lets assume it isn't just orders/executions that I am
> > interested in, and also I would like to be able to query on the last
> > message intended for application A without any presumption about what
> > application A thinks it should have received (if you see what I mean).
> >
> > cheers pritam


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