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Interesting !! Thanks for looking into that for me. 

So the question that now begs is what my best approach is ? I'd like to try and 
make sure that whatever I do is as future proof as can be. Its going to either 
be that the leg-level allocation will be removed from the new-order-multileg, 
or that it will be added to the other messages. Unless I hear otherwise I'm 
going to see if I can work using a model based on the latter.

J


> Right - I've taken a look at the 4.4 and 5.0 specs for multileg. You're 
> right, there is a leg-level allocation block on the new order multileg 
> message (in addition to the usual allocation block - not sure why we have 
> both). I don't think anybody on the Allocations Working Group at the time of 
> writing 4.4 was aware of the multileg allocation requirements so nothing was 
> added to this effect to the post-trade allocation messages. This sounds like 
> something we need to clean up.
> 
> Jim.
> 
> > Let me have a look into that - I'm not familiar with the NewOrderMultiLeg 
> > functionality.
> > Jim.
> > 
> > > Hi
> > > Thanks for responding - that does help somewhat but as you say what it 
> > > means is you can't allocate individual legs in different ways... however 
> > > if you use the NewOrderMultileg message you can allocate the individual 
> > > legs in different ways (as each LegOrdGrp does contain a LegPreAllocGrp). 
> > > 
> > > So it looks as though you can preallocate the legs in different ways but 
> > > not post allocate them. And going on from that you can't use 
> > > AllocationReports (or TradeCapture either - as that has the same 
> > > limitation). 
> > > 
> > > So what I guess I'm concluding is that even though the NewOrderMultileg 
> > > does have allow individual leg allocations, it doesn't seem to be 
> > > supported across the other messages in the same manner.
> > > 
> > > Any comments appreciated.
> > > 
> > > thanks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > It's been a while since I looked at this, but if my memory serves me 
> > > > correctly, the InstrmtLegGrp part of the message is part of the general 
> > > > 'instrument component block' which the allocation message will use to 
> > > > describe the instrument, in exactly the same way as you would on, say, 
> > > > a new order single. The allocations themselves are stored in the 
> > > > allocation repeating group part of the message, just as they would be 
> > > > for a single-leg instrument. What this does mean of course is that you 
> > > > can't allocate the individual legs in different ways (unless somebody 
> > > > since has identified a way to do this). Note that the AllocLinkId 
> > > > structure is there simply to support fragmentation of a single logical 
> > > > message into a number of physical messages (for systems that can't 
> > > > handle very large messages). Every InstrmntLegGrp block would need to 
> > > > be the same across each of those fragments.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope this helps
> > > > 
> > > > Jim.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > This question was posted about 6 years ago but there were no replies 
> > > > > - hopefully there is some more insight on this now. 
> > > > > I'd like to understand the best approach is to specifying post trade 
> > > > > allocations on multileg orders - initially FX Swaps but this should 
> > > > > also be valid for more complex multileg orders. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm looking at the 5.0SP2 specification but any help on use with 
> > > > > previous version is appreciated. 
> > > > > Looking at the AllocationInstruction message there seems to be an 
> > > > > InstrmtLegGrp component. There is also the AllocLinkID to link more 
> > > > > than one allocation instruction together. Functionally I think it 
> > > > > would be easier to use 1 allocation instruction containing all the 
> > > > > legs within it but that would make the use of AllocLinkID redundant. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any experience/thoughts/help greatly appreciated. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > J


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