This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm Fjords in Nova Scotia ---

I think that Mark's comments are interesting, and worthing thought and
discussion.  . . . . .

> I do have to comment on the level of training in our breed though.  If
> you take the 100 horses or so that show up at Blue Earth, there are
> maybe a handful that are trained to the level it takes to do well in an
> average open show.  In the riding club in my area the percentage would
> be much higher (and this club is nothing special). This is what I don't
> understand.

<What makes the Fjord (or Fjord owner different)? >

It's not the Fjord.  It is the owner.  A quality Fjordhorse with good
conformation (balance, movement, agility, strength) is capable of high level
performance, and if he isn't doing it, it's certainly not his fault.

It's true that many Fjords are sold to beginner horse people who are happy
with a nice, quiet animal that performs minimally.  These horses are usually
kept at home, rather than a training stable where the owner and horse could
receive progressive instruction.

The horses that are owned by the Lori Albroughs, the Vivian Creighs, the
Jensens, Elaine Olson, Ann Appleby, etc. show remarkable levels of training,
and are able to compete with the best in open competition.  They compete and
they astound the competition by winning.  --  As Elaine Olson's  farrier
once said about  her gelding, BDF Idar . . . ."My dressage customers are all
ticked off because they're getting beaten by a pony."  -- 
BDF Idar was recently awarded The Top Performance Award at 2nd Level for the
Los Angeles region.

So, it's not the Fjordhorses. --- It's the fact that so many Fjord owners
are not interested in competition, and very often do not train their horses
to a high level.  --  And you know, this is OK (sort of) . . .  It's a fact
that the Fjord is first and foremost a Family Horse, but also a Recreational
Horse.  --  I really don't fault people who aren't interested in showing,
and don't train to a high level.  -- 

However, I do very strongly believe that the NFHR should promote the
Fjordhorse as being capable of performing to a high level.  --  They should
be running ads showing fantastic photos of fantastic Fjords.  The public has
got to know that these horse are bred to perform, just as they're bred to be
nice, family, recreational horses.
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Mark further commented . . . .

  I had a long talk with Fred Brandt at the Minnesota Horse Expo
> where we discussed many things concerning our breed and one of the
> subjects was breeding Fjords versus taking in 3 and 4 year olds and
> putting a year of good training on them.  Which one would be more
> profitable for the farms out there?  Instead of breeding and selling
> foals to "new" horse owners who will train the horse to a relatively low
> level maybe it would be more responsible (and profitable) to train our
> stock that is out there already thus having the Fjord better represented
> in the long run.  It was an interesting concept and one I've thought
> about a lot.
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I've also thought a lot about this sort of thing, but I don't like the idea
of "taking in 3 and 4 year olds and putting a year of good training on
them."  ------  The reason I'm not fond of doing it that way is that in my
experience if the horse goes 3 or 4 years without training, he's way behind
the eight ball, and the trainer is going to have serious attitude problems
with this horse, and the training is going to take a very long time, and be
expensive.    --- 

In our experience, the best horses are the ones that have been correctly
handled and trained from the beginning.  Those are the horses people can
depend on.  --  And I would go so far as to say that the "correct handling"
is more important than the training.  ---  The worst cases are the ones that
have had incorrect and inept handling.  The ones that are pushy and
disrespectful because they've been behaving that way for several years.  --- 
These are tough cases, and not what I want to deal with.  Believe me, even
though we're talking about Fjords, horses such as these can be very
dangerous.

The best horses are the ones that have been well handled since birth and
trained up to three or four years of age, then sold.  ---  This is a whole
lot of time, work, and money, and the horse raised this way is valuable, and
is not going to be sold for $4,000.

However, there are $2,000, $3,000, $4,000 Fjords out there at various ages.
You can buy them, but unless you're a very good horseperson, you'd better be
prepared to invest at least $6,000 in training in order to get a pleasant,
safe, using horse.  And if you want a performance horse, you can triple that
figure.

So, do the math .. . . What is a good quality, well-trained horse worth?

Best Regards,  Carol Rivoire

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