This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everybody from Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -
Recently, someone posted to the List a comment about the contribution of mares in breeding. It may have been Jean Ernest. -- Jean (?) Something to the effect that 'stallions get all the notice, publicity, and credit, when it's often a strong mare line that makes for a successful outcome. As a Fjord breeder of 25 years, I agree. In fact, this subject reminds me of a time about twenty years ago when Bob van Bon was sitting in my livingroom and made the same remark. --- For newcomers who may not know who Van Bon is . . . He's the head of the Fjordhorse Studbook of the Netherlands. He's the Chief Inspector of Fjords. He's one of the world's foremost experts on Fjords. -- This was before we moved to Nova Scotia when we were living in New Hampshire. -- Bob was sitting there thumbing through piles of horse magazines, and he said "Why do Americans talk so much about the stallions?" "Why don't they mention the mares?" --- He said that when he goes looking for a new stallion for the Dutch Studbook, he ALWAYS insists on seeing the stallion's dam. -- He would never consider buying a stallion that didn't have an outstanding mother. I'd go a step further. -- Verifying the quality of the dam is important in all horse purchases, not just with stallions. I always made sure to look at the mothers when I was buying mares in Holland. I remember one time being quite taken with a certain filly; that is; UNTIL I saw her dam. The filly was really good looking as a yearling, but her dam was a runt which means that the chance of getting a high quality foal out of the mare I considered buying was considerably dimished. Not to mention that despite the filly's youthful promise, she might not mature as good as she looks now. Think about the importance of this! You're at an American evaluation, and a certain young mare receives a blue ribbon. You decide to buy that mare on the basis of her evaluation, and the fact she's by an evaluated tallion. -- However, if you haven't studied the pedigree on both sides, and if you don't know the dam, then you may be in for a surprise when you breed your mare. For instance, if you intend to breed the mare, you might want to know if the mare's dam has a good breeding history. For the last 25 years, we've been breeding Fjords at Beaver Dam Farm. We don't breed a lot of them, but we make every effort to breed good ones. -- We started our breeding farm with three high quality imported mares from Holland, all bred to different approved Dutch Studbook stallions. -- In the beginning, we used the stallions available at the time. They weren't the best, but were the best available. Luckily, our mares were such good quality, that the foals we produced were of decent quality. . Then, in 1985, on a trip to Holland, I saw a wonderful stallion, and decided this is exactly what we needed to achieve our goals at Beaver Dam Farm. == Unfortunately, he wasn't available at any price at that time -- Luckily, two years later he became available, and Arthur and I imported the proven stallion, GJEST. Gjest was as proven as it's possible to be proven. From what I've been told by Bob van Bon, Gjest is the only stallion in Fjord history that has an unbroken sire line of approved stallions down through the history of the breed, leading back to the "Matador" stallion, BARONEN. -- In other words, Gjest's sire, Helgas-Jarl, was a Norwegian (and Dutch) 'Approved Stallion', as was Helgas-Jarl's sire, and his sire before him, and his sire before him, and so on down through the ages -- Such a bloodline is dependable, consistent, certified, trustworthy, proven, reliable, tested. . . TRIED & TRUE. -- Well, back to the importance of the mares, and my point that -- THE STALLION CAN'T DO IT ALL! If a wonderful breeding stallion is bred to a common mare, she'll likely produce better than she is, but the stallion cannot do it all! It won't be a high quality foal. --When we imported the stallion, Gjest, we had as good as they get. Yet, we knew we needed to breed Gjest to the best mares we could find. And to that end, were careful to choose mares sound in every aspect --- bloodlines, temperament, movement, trainability. It isn't enough that the mare is beautiful! In order for that beauty to be more than "skin deep", she MUST have been bred for it. We've learned how vital it is to have a high quality mare, no matter how good your stallion is. When we first started, despite all the hoopla about stallions --- which would make anyone think the stallion does it all --- we knew that scientifically the mare contributes 50% to the resulting foal. -- Frankly, I've always thought she contributed more than half, and she does when you consider how she imprints her own character on the foal. She's the one raising him. - And afterall, what's more important in a horse than his character and temperament? -- But, recently, I've heard the new thinking is the mare contributes more than half to the physical makeup of the foal. Van Bon told me years ago to look for big-bodied mares because they have the capacity to grow big foals. Makes sense! When we bought our stallion, Gjest, from the Dutch Fjord Studbook, he was, as I said above, AS PROVEN AS THEY GET. But, what we learned when we started breeding Gjest to our own mares and outside mares, was that the foals were not likely to look like Gjest. More often, they resembled their dams, even to color, markings and heads. For instance, Holly's foals always look like "Holly foals", and Holly looks like her sire, Solar who was tall, very light colored with almost no markings, had a big, round body, and a somewhat large head - -- What they get from Gjest is a more rectangular body shape, very good movement, good work ethic, and a "go-forward" attitude. Hardly any of them look like Gjest. The only one I can think of that does look like him is BDF Kanada King. -- Maryke's foals are almost all dark like she is, and they have her beautiful head with huge eyes, and her distinct leg markings. -- Most of her foals look like she does, have her very sweet, "user-friendly" attitude, but move more like Gjest. Maryke's color and markings are eye-catching - really outstanding and desirable. And where does that color come from, along with the well sculpted head and beautiful eyes? -- All of that comes from Maryke's sire, the Danish stallionHjerter-Knaeght. The longest standing breeding stallion in Holland's Fjord history. Stine and Gjest are one great combination!!! In this mating, more than any other I've seen, the qualities of the mare and the stallion meld and complement each other to a high degree, consistently producing the highest of quality - For instance, BDF Kanada King, BDF Obelisk, BDF Malcom Locke, BDF Jennifer Anne, BDF Phillippine --- There's no question that Stine is a highly influential dam. She's a big, forward mover, and her foals are just like her. Stine is tall and big-bodied. All of her foals are tall, and most of them big-bodied. The fact that both Stine and Gjest are such big, beautiful, forward movers shows in their offspring. f you're looking to buy a Fjord, whether stallion or mare, and even sometimes a gelding, take the trouble to see the horse's dam, and learn her pedigree and qualities. And, of course, it goes without saying that you should know all about the sire. If you don't have this information before you buy, you could be headed for big problems; such as behavior and health problems. If you're buying a using horse and both the sire and dam are aged, sound, and good using horses, then the one you buy is likely to serve you long and well. -- If on the other hand, one of the parents went blind at age ten, maybe you should do more checking. If you're looking for a stallion to breed your mare . . . Be careful! -- Most stallions, even those of mediocre quality look quite flashy. They prance, arch their necks and strut their stuff, and all of that is impressive. Don't be fooled! Ask to see the horse posed so you can really see his conformation. Ask to see him walked and trotted so you can check movement and correctness of movement (does he paddle, for instance?). Ask to see him worked, so you can determine attitude and trainability. - Ask to see his pedigree, and if possible look at his dam. If it's not possible to see her in the flesh, then make every effort to check her out, because there's more than just the stallion's genes going into the prospective foal. If the stallion's dam has been evaluated, you're in luck. Check her out. If she received anything less than a red ribbon, you might want to look elsewhere for a breeding stallion. Kind Regards, Carol Rivoire http://www.beaverdamfarm.com Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet, Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 Tel:(902) 386-2304 Fax:(902) 386-2149 Carole Rivoire, author of THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK, only book in English on the Fjord breed, available from Beaver Dam Farm, $36.95 US includes P&H http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/book.htm ,