This message is from: Barbara Sollner-webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't know what kind of Wintec you have, but for my previous horse (who surely was on vacation when they handed out withers), I had the Wintec metal gullet bent out extremely wide (about 1 1/2 - 2 inches wider than the widest they now sell). Using long-ish screws, I was able to fit this gullet in both an All-purpose and an Endurance Wintec, and rode happily for years on these very wide saddles.