This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Goodday from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -
>NFHR Registrar, Mike May wrote - > >>SOLE income from breeding Norwegian Fjords?y >>Fjord breeders in the last 10 years, and not one of them can claim that they >>only breed these horses for a living. > >And I have probably met and talked to many more. I don't know of any that >make their SOLE income from Fjords either. Not even Carol at Beaver Dam >Farm does. I guess I would like to hear the definition of a "Professional >Breeder" too. Or the definition of a "Non-Professional Breeder". A >"Breeder" is the owner of the mare at the time of service. So anyone can >be a breeder as long as you are a owner of a mare. Owning a stallion only >makes you a stallion owner it doesn't make you a breeder (Professional or >otherwise). > >Mike ------------------------------------------- Mike wants to know the definition of a PROFESSIONAL BREEDER. This confusion about definitions reminds me of CLINTON when he said - "Depends on how you define the word 'IS', or how you define the word - 'ALONE'." Clinton set a new standard for definitions. I would think the term PROFESSIONAL BREEDER would be perfectly clear. However, I understand that from Mike's point of view as Registrar, the word "breeder" refers to the "owner of the dam at time of service." Yes, he/she is the breeder of that mare, but is the owner of one or two mares who occasionally breeds a PROFESSIONAL BREEDER? Here's a definition of PROFESSIONAL - "ONE WHO HAS AN EXPERT KNOWLEDGE OF A COMPLEX DISCIPLINE, AND WHO MAKES HIS LIVING FROM WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE AN AVOCATION." I AM a professional breeder. . Revenue from our FJORD BUSINESS is the SOLE INCOME & SUPPORT of Beaver Dam Farm. We pay taxes on the PROFIT from our Fjord business. --- Mike says "not even Carol from Beaver Dam Farm can claim her sole income is from Fjords." Really, Mike? Do you know something the IRS and Revenue Canada do not? The word "professional" is pretty well defined by the tax people, particularly as it applies to "horse breeders" as opposed to hobbyists. You have to be serious and convince the taxman that you are seriously in business, working towards profit, and not doing it as a hobby. --- And despite what some people think, "profit" is not a "dirty" word. It is, indeed, possible to be a concientious breeder who loves his horses, and cares for them and uses them very well . . . and not go broke in the process. The "owner of the mare at the time of service" is technically the breeder of the foal for registration purposes. No argument from me. However, that certainly doesn't make that person a professional breeder. However, I don't believe a person has to make his sole living from his breeding business in order to be a Professional Breeder. It's a question of seriousness, quality of product, intent, and volume. -- For instance, someone who has a milk cow in his backyard is not in the Dairy Business. Wouldn't you agree? If you're a surgeon, and own a mare that you may breed once or twice, how would you answer the question - "What is your profession?" I think the answer would be "surgeon." If you're a lawyer, and play golf every weekend, how would you answer the question - "What is your profession?" Would you say "golfer? Mike also wants to know, - What is a "non-professional breeder." The answer is not as clear. Dare I say "backyard breeder" ? -(please!!! no offense intended). -- People who have one or two mares, and breed once in awhile. These people are serious and knowledgeable about quality breeding. However, they are not breeding as a profession. They are mare owners ---- not breeders, despite the fact that for registration purposes, they are, indeed, classified as the "breeder" of the resulting foal. A MANDATE FOR HORSE BREEDERS, Professional or not - "The breeder should always strive for perfection, but in stallions, there are no excuses." Regards, Carol Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
