This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 10:28 AM 2/19/99 -0800, you wrote: >This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Thanks to all who responded to my query about the third generation >outcrossing on Dutch fjords. As you recall, I was just responding to an >earlier message that said that some Dutch Fjords may have been crossed with >Arabs, Actually I think the reference you are talking about was not to Dutch horses at all. I think it was the post by Anneli you are referring to. Here is the message she left regarding the "Open" status of the Registries in some European countries: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Subject: Influence from other breeds? This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kristine wrote: >>According to them, some Fjords - don`t ask me where or when - were crossed with fullbloods in order to make them more graceful and athletic.>> >>Evidently this widespread "fact" (in Europe) isn`t known in the States.>> In at least Sweden and Denmark, the offspring to a fjordcross can gradually (it takes 3 generations) be uppgraded into the studbook and therefore considered a pure bred fjordhorse! In my country, the studbook isn't closed, but a horse need to be by a registred stallion and have 3 full generations to be registred in the studbook (stallions must have a registred mother too). Both genders must be approved by a judge and co-judge. The demands for stallions to be registred in the studbook are hard. But - say you have a fjord/arab-cross. If she is covered by a registred fjordstallion and her daughter, granddaughter and great granddaughter too, the great great granddaugther will have 3 full generations and therefor able to get into the studbook, if the judges finds her to be of sufficent fjordtype. I'm not familiar enough with the Danish studbook-rules to tell you about them, but I belive that the Danish studbook is 'open' like the Swedish. You don't have to trace every horse in your horse's pedigree back to a registred ancestor to have your horse registred. I mentioned in an earlier post that my horse's maternal grandfather was gelded by his owner because too high a percentage of his offspring had white markings. The sire (who had no white markings himself) was by the Norweigan imported stallion Enok and out of a mare of Danish lines. I have spoken to some fjordpeople about this matter and the general idea seem to be that way back in the mare's pedigree there was foreign blood that showed generations later with white markings and sometimes pony-like heads. If you study older Danish pedigrees you sometimes find mares only mentioned as 'gul hoppe' (=dun mare). In these cases the only thing known about the mare is that she was dun, and we all know that all dun horses are not fjords... Regards Anneli in Uppsala, Sweden ======================================================= Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
