This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Meredith,
The following information about Fjord coloring is summarized from a paper by Tor Nestaas who is an official in the Norwegian "Department of Agriculture" (not exactly what they call it). Mr. Nestaas took his information from a thesis by the late Johs. Loen and from conversations with Kari Ann Indrebo, both in Norway. Fjord coloring is controlled by a number of factors, but three main genes are responsible: B - gene for black A - gene for limitation of black C - gene for color or dilution of color Any Fjord that has black coloring (brown dun, grey dun, and white dun) has a dominant copy of the gene B. Those without black (red and yellow duns) have a recessive copy of it. Brown duns and white duns also have a dominant copy of the gene A which limits the black, so most of these horses do not have as much black or smoky color as a grey does. Grey duns have a recessive copy of it, so their black or dark coloring is not as restricted. Some red and yellow duns have a dominant copy, and some have recessive, but it doesn't matter because they do not express black because of gene B. Brown duns, red duns, and some grey duns have only a dominant copy of the gene C, meaning there is no dilution of their color. Yellow duns, white duns, and some grey duns have the dilution factor present. Some practical results of these factors: (some things will be repeated, but it is presented this way to make it easy to find the results of breeding your own mare or stallion with the same or other colors): 1. Breeding a BROWN dun to either a BROWN, RED, or CERTAIN GREY duns: Theoretically, only brown dun, red dun, or grey dun offspring can result. The diluted colors, yellow dun and white dun, should not be possible. And any grey dun that resulted would have a dominant copy of the gene for dilution (C), meaning dilution is not expressed. (Usually a dominant copy of something means it IS expressed, but not with dilution). This means that, bred back to brown duns, red duns, or similar grey duns (no dilution) , those are still the only colors possible in the offspring (brown, red, and grey). How can you tell which greys are dominant for dilution (dilution is not expressed in offspring) and which are recessive (dilution is expressed in offspring)? Good question. You can't tell by looking. Comparing the colors and genetics of the grey horse's parents and offspring is the only way short of DNA testing (not the DNA testing the Registry requires - this is much more involved) - Breeding BROWN dun to a YELLOW, WHITE, or GREY WHO HAS THE DILUTION FACTOR: Any color could result except albino. *NOTE* there is one genotype (combination of genes) of brown dun that, when bred with other brown dun or red duns, only results in brown dun. If you like brown dun and don't particularly care for red dun, having a horse like this would be a bonus. Note, however, that it would take many breedings to be sure this was the case with your horse; Having a brown dun foal 3 out of 3 times is not nearly enough, especially if the horse has never been bred to a red dun. 2.. Breeding RED dun to RED dun: Always results in a red dun. -Breeding RED dun to YELLOW dun: Results in either red or yellow dun only. -Breeding a RED to a BROWN or GRAY WITHOUT DILUTION FACTOR: Same as #1. -Breeding a RED to a WHITE OR GRAY WITH DILUTION FACTOR: Any color is possible. 3. Breeding a GRAY WITHOUT THE DILUTION FACTOR to a BROWN, RED, OR ANOTHER GRAY WITHOUT THE DILUTION FACTOR: Can give brown, red or grey (also without the dilution factor). -Breeding a GREY WITHOUT THE DILUTION FACTOR to a YELLOW OR WHITE DUN: Can result in any color. - Breeding a GREY WITH THE DILUTION FACTOR to ANY OTHER COLOR: Can result in any color. *NOTE* There is one genotype (combination of genes) of grey duns that, when bred with another grey, can only produce grey horses. If you are lucky enough to have a Fjord like that, we have some grey dun breeders in the Registry who would love to talk to you. Again, getting a grey twice out of two breedings, for example, is not good enough to say for sure that this is the case with your horse. 4. Breeding YELLOW or WHITE duns to BROWN, RED, AND GRAYS WITHOUT THE DILUTION FACTOR: Can result in any color, but not albino. -Breeding YELLOW or WHITE duns to YELLOW, WHITE, AND GRAYS WITH THE DILUTION FACTOR: Can produce any of the colors, including ALBINO. Note, however, this is not a true albino because they have blue eyes. They are instead, a very white horse. (Not recommended for areas of the world that get a lot of snow : ) Remember, there are several different possibilities of genotypes for each color. It is a complex interaction, not a simple one. As Tor Nestaas says, "One cannot decide from the looks of a horse what kind of genotype of color it has. By studying the pedigree and the colours of his ancestors, one can get some certainty of what genotype a certain horse may have. But only by noticing what colour the offspring[s] are, one can be certain of what kind of colour genotype the horse has." And I might add, "it often takes alot of offspring, produced by breedings with the same and different-colored Fjords, to really be sure." Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]