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Hi List ! Interesting to hear people panic over feeding alfalfa hay. Here in Utah, its about all you can get, and you compete with the farmers sending it all along to California, where it can reach 11.60 a bale ( 120 lbs. ) I am paying 5.00 a bale for # 1 alfalfa now, and thats stored indoors all year, and delivered. We had a better selection of feed in Calif. and living in horse town USA, Norco, had no less than 8 diff. feed stores in one small town. We have owned horses now for over 20 years. I have always fed alfalfa. We supplimint with Purina Stratigy, for the babies, and lactating or preg. mares. They have tried beet pulp, and it was good for keeping weight ON.....( I know, some of you are laughing....but at 11.60 a bale, and they stood all day with no pasture, it WAS hard to keep the ones you worked hard, in good flesh. ) Anyway....Im a bit obsessive about wormming, and we do the entire herd every 10 weeks, and have yearly teeth checks. I do not pull wolfe teeth, unless they cause a problem, and only one horses has, BTW. We have been very lucky to never have a colic or serious illness. In the 10,000 horses that lived in Norco, Im betting that 90 % of them were fed pure alfalfa their whole life. Im just glad to be paying 1/2 of what I was used to, and its beautiful stuff. Im not sure, either if a horse needs to " nibble " all day long, as mine usually finish their breakfast in about 3 hours, then spend most of the day, playing, napping, and just hanging around, being horses. Their last meal at night is finished in around 2 hours, then they go off to sleep. In the wild, horses did not graze all day long, in fact they traveled up to 20 miles a day, in search of water, safe places and shade. My horses do not chew fences, manes or tails. They are happy, and satisfied with their food, and there is no big deal fussing over hay piles between the small ones or mares to geldings. They DO seem to pick on Sophie, the 17.2 hand Belgian, and even a Fjord foal will give her the " look " and send her running off to find a new pile to eat from. ( She was a bottle baby, and never got the hang of herd order....shes LAST ) Just wanted to dispel a few myth's from what we have experienced. This cold is still keeping me draining....just thought you might want to know. <ggg> Thanks for the group at chat this last Sun. We enjoyed, PAV Aussie, Margaret, BKfjords, Amy, Jean from Alaska ( ! ) , Lynda, Sarah, Michele, Jon and Mary, Betsy, Cowboy, and Joe. The dates of the California, Martins Auction are : Feb. 11 and 12th. Orange Show Fair Grounds, San Bernadino, Ca. They have added a 10 % buyers premium on all tack, primitives, antiques and harness that sells on Fri. so beware your bid is always 10 % over. The carts, coach's and carriages that sell on Sat. just have sales tax, unless you have a re-sale #. It costs to get in and park, and bring chairs, cause they also hit you for a seat....10.00 a person, even a child. The food is also way high.....sigh, just is not as much fun anymore. Later, from SUNNY So. Utah, temp outside today reached 70 *. Waaaa Hooo ! Lisa Pedersen