This message is from: "Tish Pasqual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Glory bit was raved about by many as a great bit for driving, if you want to read the full deal on it check out this website (it is TrotOn, "home" to the CD-L, Carriage Driving List http://listserv.dartmouth.edu/Archives/cd-l.html) ; you can search the archives by typing in Glory bit. In fact, if you want a full running discussion of "tongue over bit", just type that in. Some of the people on this list are very high-powered driving folks, and reading the archives is a great way to get all kinds of driving information. The cost of the Glory was $80 shipped, and it is really a beautiful thing - surprisingly big, and it looks cast. The high port really helps with the tongue over the bit - something I have seen a surprising number of times, not a good thing. The maker was very familiar with this problem and he said that some breeds just have thick tongues and it is uncomfortable for them and they will work to free their tongues. If you just want to talk to the maker about them or order one, his phone and address are
Ray Johnson Glory Metal Works RFD 1 Box 200 Plymouth, NH 03264 USA 603-536-2665 or fax 603-726-3766. He has made quite a few of them for Fjords. When I say Elph is going well in it, I mean he mouths the bit, seems content to hold it in his mouth, I can be extremely soft with my hands and he responds to me, and, he has never put his tongue over it! The Waggoner's address is http://www.minihorses.com/Text/wagoner.html. Dale is who I worked with and the cart was shipped very promptly. Good luck! Tish and Elphie in Minneapolis