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Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - In response to my posting about the Dutch Keurings in Vermont and other places, Jean Ernest wrote . . . . >Carol, > >I understand that none of the other European contries (Norway, Sweden, >Denmark, Germany etc.) will allow Holland to come and do Dutch Keurings in >their countries? Why is that? Jean, I've never heard of any of the European Studbooks doing Keurings in countries other than their own, although, they often co-judge in other countries. Norway's Arne Presthus was in the ring with Van Bon this summer in Holland at the big Anniversary Show. --- There would be no reason for Germany, etc. to ask Holland to do "Dutch Keurings" as they have their own team of Fjord judges. Specialists trained to judge Fjordhorses, who I assume are as qualified as Van Bon. This discussion should not be "Us" vs. "Them". That's not the point. The point is EDUCATION. I asked the question, "Why didn't more people come to learn in Vermont?" Lots of reasons, I suppose - However, loyalty to the American system shouldn't be one. Breeders particularly, but owners as well, should seek knowledge of the breed wherever it's available. My objection to the American Evaluations is based on this - I simply don't think the American judges can do as good a job as the European judges because of one fact - They are not specialists in Fjordhorses, and that worries me. I know they are highly qualified and respected in their fields. And I appreciate that they've studied Fjords in the U.S. and in Europe. However . . . . I ask myself, "How can these judges keep all the different Breed Standards straight?" They're human - Not computers. How can they possibly go from judging QuarterHorses/Arabians/Morgans/Minis, etc. on Friday to Fjords on Saturday? I really do wonder about this. Doesn't anybody else? I think about the Vermont Keuring when someone presented a good-looking gelding. The judges said. . . "A NICE RIDING PONY, BUT NOT A FJORD." -- Can our Evaluation judges do this after judging Morgans the day before? Maybe they can, but it's beyond me. I just can't believe it. Think about it ---- It took the NFHR over fifteen years to write our Breed Standards. Apparently, it was NOT A SIMPLE JOB! If it was, they could have COPIED STANDARDS from another breed, and we'd have had our Fjord Standards in 1984. FJORDS DON'T FIT THE STANDARD MOLD. Defining them is not easy. The NFHR Standards Committee discussed and argued fifteen years before they were able to satisfy everybody. I bet they discussed and argued six months getting the wording right to describe the Fjord neck. It probably took even longer. I don't know how long it took. I do know that it took fifteen years to get standards that described the Fjord. That being the case, how can judges who do many breeds cope with the Breed Standards of each of the breeds they're carded in? Sorry, but I don't think it can be done, and it worries me. Can these judges possibly have the image of the "ideal Fjord" in their mind's eye, or will that image get blended with other images? I think it's the right thing that we're working on a North American Evaluation Program. However, I worry that serious mistakes will be made while we're getting it right. And I think our judges should maintain A CLOSE ASSIOCIATION WITH THE EUROPEANS DURING THESE FORMATIVE YEARS. That would include auditing or co-judging whenever the Dutch or Norwegians came over to do Keurings. It may seem contradictory, but I do applaud the NFHR for supporting the American Evaluations. It's a big step forward. I hope the program continues to go forward with more and more education of both judges and owners. I hope someday it becomes as expert as the Dutch and Norwegian programs. -- I hope someday that we, too, are able to have judges from our own ranks that really know the breed. Judges that are first and foremost FJORD PEOPLE. In the meantime, I think we should welcome both - The American Evaluations AND Keurings by European Studbooks. Whenever there's an Evaluation/Keuring anywhere that's possible to get to, those interested in Fjord breeding should make every effort to attend. The opportunity to learn about our breed is just too valuable to miss. Fjords are a funny breed. They, themselves are not specialists. They're supposed to do everything for everyone, which is why judging them is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT than say, judging a jumper or a Morgan Park Horse, or a reining horse. Temperament and attitude are really big things, which is why the Dutch double the marks for these traits. But, there are seeming contradictions. For instance, presence in a stallion is very important, which is why a stallion that "shows himself" is desirable, even though some might think, because he's not standing quietly, he's bad tempered. The Europeans want to see a stallion acting like a stallion during the Keuring part of the exam . . . Yet, they want him to behave just as well as the mares during the Performance testing. --- Do our judges understand this? Do they feel the same? Or do they want to see stallions standing dociley in the ring? -- If so, then we will have different breeding goals than the Europeans. Do we want that? Or, do we like the horse we've got, which has come to us from Europe? I've been raising, importing, and selling Fjords for twenty years. These are just my own personal opinions developed over the years. For all of these reasons, including BREED TYPE, I would want a Fjord judge who knows the breed in his mind and in his soul to judge our BDF horses. ONE LAST COMMENT: This is not an issue of "them" or "us". It's not a question of being loyal to the Europeans or to the Americans. The bottom line, as I see it, is doing what's best for the breed by educating owners and breeders so they can make informed decisions. To that end, both programs have a whole lot to teach us. JUST ONE MORE THING - Someone asked why we didn't take ours --- Even for a Keuring, I would not trailer our horses 1,000 miles. The next time there is one, we hope to have the judges fly into Halifax, do our horses, and then proceed to New England and points west. It wasn't possible this year, very unfortunately. Best Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf