fjordhorse-digest Wednesday, December 19 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 331
In this issue: Re: making wire fence visible Re: wide saddles ? Re: West Coast Evaluations Re: wide saddles ? Re: wide saddles ? Re: wide saddles ? Fw: Symantec Security Response information on: SULFNBK.EXE_Warning Roberg_Adrian_L/DBO/ADM/DHS is out of the office. Re: making wire fence visible Re: wide saddles ? Re: Webpage design Re: making wire fence visible 2002 Shows Re: Webpage design Re: wide saddles ? Re: saddle fittting? Re: solar powered fencer See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:03:25 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: making wire fence visible This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have 5 wire fencing -- top wire has white plastic "flutter" pieces that hang from the wire and wiggle as the wind blows. The fluttering helps both human and horse keep the fence in sight. These are available through our "Fleet Farm" supply - sold in pacs of 12 . Seems I have seen in a horse catalog or two - can't remember off hand. I put on the bottom wire, too, for my goats - they like to scoot outside the fence when young. After a "zap" or two they get the idea and the "flutterers" remind them to stay away:) Linda in MN -- no snow and none in the forcast :( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:09:04 +0000 From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wide saddles ? This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just a word of caution on some of these really wide trees on Fjord Horses. Just because (some) fjords have minimal or almost no real withers, please know that some of these wide trees can be TOO wide at the gullet, and actually sink down in front w/ the weight of the rider in the saddle, and if the bars extend too far forward in front of the swells, your sadle is going to be interfering w/ the top end of the shoulder (scapula?) Because I know that fjords can be very unique to fit a saddle to, I am always curious about how different saddles work on them. I have the good oppurtunity to try out a variety of saddles, both custom & factory made, as I help caretake a small ranch where we board horses. I think by far the best tree you can use (if it is avail) in a ready-made saddle, is a Wade tree w/ semi QH bars. Some of the full QH bar saddles do work on some, but not all of the fjords I have to "test" on, (5, ages ranging from 3 to 23 years.) On my biggest fjord, Alycia who is just a smidge over 14.3hh w/ NO withers, the Wade tree works the best. I put a saddle on her w/ an extra wide tree, and she had very little clearance, and the front bars really were too close into the scapula area. Anyway, if you are gonna plunk down a wad of cash on an important investment like a saddle, english or western, always insist on trying it out first, if at all possible. Most good tacksellers worth their salt will alloooow this for a deposit against the saddle, and the undersatnding that you must return it w/in a certain time, usually 3 days to a week. IMO, you wouldn't buy a bra w/o trying it on first before paying for it would you?? And you could buy allot of bras for the price of one saddle..... ;~) Sandy, I really agree in using a single thickness WOOL pad under a saddle on the real "chubettes". If I use my Woolback "fluffier" pad, the saddle does seem to slip more! Karen McCarthy Grat Basin Fjords Carson City, Nv - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sandy Sederstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Circle Y saddle Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:22:39 -0600 Has anyone checked out the new Circle Y Draft Horse Trail Saddle? I thought this might be worth a look. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:19:37 +0000 From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: West Coast Evaluations This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the advice Mike. I will contact Tom or Anne. I would like to have as much support from the NFHR as I can get. As you know, it is imperative that an Evaluation have member support behind it (i.e. at least 30 -40 horses lined up), hence my post. Consider it "pre-polling"! I have had about 3 private emails & one from Fred (thanks!!) telling me that they are interested..anyone else?? And by all means, if you don't have a horse that is ready to be evaluated, don't forget that volunteers are MOST welcome!! Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, Nv - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: West Coast Evaluations Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:32:25 -0500 If your serious Karen you should contact the committee & at least give them an idea that you are interested in doing one again. Please contact either of the co-chairs of the committee - Tom Hans or Anne Appleby. If you need their email addresses let me know. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:49:56 -0900 From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wide saddles ? This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I keep thinking that the TENNESSEAN saddles sold by the Nation Bridle Shop might fit Fjords, especially those with big shoulders. The trees were especially designed for gaited horses and made by the Steele Equi-fit saddle tree Co. The saddles are shorter in lenghth, also to fit a shorter back, with a wider gullet and more flare to the bars. The leather saddles are made by Crates and the Cordura Tennessean saddles ( with leather seat, etc.) are made by Fabtron. Check them out: http://www.nationalbridleshop.com Has anybody tried one of these? Does anybody live near the National Bridel shop in Tennessee where they can get one to try and report back to us? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -20F today, warmed up from -35F yesterday.We STILL need snow! >I think by far the best tree you can use (if it is avail) in a ready-made >saddle, is a Wade tree w/ semi QH bars. >Some of the full QH bar saddles do work on some, but not all of the fjords I >have to "test" on, (5, ages ranging from 3 to 23 years.) ************************************************************ Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:46:49 +0000 From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wide saddles ? This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for mentioning 'flare' Jean, as this is how the tree on my saddle was modified before the leather was ever a part of the picture.. The bars, at each end are flared out, so they "roll away" and avoid the shoulder and kidney areas. It also fits THROUGH the back, not "bridging" it as many of the regular off the rack saddles might do. I'll keep my eye out for this kind of saddle; we have a TW here at the barn & she is in a local TW group..maybe they use one? kmac - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: wide saddles ? Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:49:56 -0900 This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I keep thinking that the TENNESSEAN saddles sold by the Nation Bridle Shop might fit Fjords, especially those with big shoulders. The trees were especially designed for gaited horses and made by the Steele Equi-fit saddle tree Co. The saddles are shorter in lenghth, also to fit a shorter back, with a wider gullet and more flare to the bars. The leather saddles are made by Crates and the Cordura Tennessean saddles ( with leather seat, etc.) are made by Fabtron. Check them out: http://www.nationalbridleshop.com Has anybody tried one of these? Does anybody live near the National Bridel shop in Tennessee where they can get one to try and report back to us? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -20F today, warmed up from -35F yesterday.We STILL need snow! >I think by far the best tree you can use (if it is avail) in a ready-made >saddle, is a Wade tree w/ semi QH bars. >Some of the full QH bar saddles do work on some, but not all of the fjords I >have to "test" on, (5, ages ranging from 3 to 23 years.) ************************************************************ Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:10:09 -0900 From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wide saddles ? This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Thanks for mentioning 'flare' Jean, as this is how the tree on my saddle was >modified before the leather was ever a part of the picture.. The bars, at >each end are flared out, so they "roll away" and avoid the shoulder and >kidney areas. It also fits THROUGH the back, not "bridging" it as many of >the regular off the rack saddles might do. Another saddle maker, David Genadek, makes saddles with trees that have more flare. Check out his website: http://www.aboutthehorse.com/ He also has an excellent video on saddle fit, only $24.95 and gives clinics on saddle fitting. His "Black Rhino" saddle has some special features and he makes one model especially designed for the well padded female figure! I haven't tried one, but I think I would cinsider it if I already didn't have six saddles! m( I'v e gotta sell a couple so I can buy more!) Features and Benefits of Black Rhino Saddles: 1. Wider bars -- Fewer back problems 2. More flare to the bars in front -- Free shoulders 3. Skirt attachment -- Doesn't constrict the horse 4. Molded skirts -- Skirts don't rub horse 5. Molded fenders -- Allows easy access to stirrups 6. Quality materials -- Saddle lasts 7. Fifth generation tree maker -- Backed by experience 8. Fourth generation leather tanner -- Backed by experience 9. Real Wool -- Allows the horse greater comfort 10. Seats designed for a human pelvis -- Comfort 11. Special triangle plate rigging -- Frees the horse's movement He has written articles on saddle fitting for "Western Horseman" and "Horse and Rider Mgazines" Hey, I don't have any connetion to his company, but it sure seems he might be able to fit fjords! He lives in Minnesota. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still -20F, no more snow and dark already at 4:00 ( sunset at 2:40 PM, only 3:40 hours daylight, but the shortest day is coming!!!!) ************************************************************ Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:45:45 -0600 From: "John and Bev Sluss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: Symantec Security Response information on: SULFNBK.EXE_Warning This message is from: "John and Bev Sluss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Link To: John Sluss Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Fwd: Symantec Security Response information on: SULFNBK.EXE_Warning Hey there John, hows it going??? this might be helpful for that last warning...its a hoax, take care and hope to see everyone soon, Happy Holiday's... take care. 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Bill Winans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:04:28 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Roberg_Adrian_L/DBO/ADM/DHS is out of the office. This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will be out of the office starting 12/18/2001 and will not return until 12/20/2001. I will respond to your message when I return. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:50:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: making wire fence visible This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I have 5 wire fencing -- top wire has white plastic > "flutter" pieces that > hang from the wire and wiggle as the wind blows. > The fluttering helps both > human and horse keep the fence in sight. These are > available through our > "Fleet Farm" supply - sold in pacs of 12 . But why bother with things that come in packs of 12? Must be kinda pricey to buy enough for a whole fence. We find that a roll of good old surveyor's tape works just fine. Any color will do, but the brighter colors work better out here where the 'background' is usually dark colored(we rarely have snow). Just buy a couple of rolls - anywhere(farm supply, building supply, Home Depot, Ace Hardware, etc.) - and you're in business. Tear off strips, whatever length suits your purpose, and tie them on the fence wire. Lasts several years in our climate. A plus to using colors: If it does happen to snow they are still visible against the white background. The color in the tapes gives just enough "gray contrast" for the horses, etc., to still see them. Bright colors in our often dense undergrowth serve to warn PEOPLE that "something" is there which just might command their attention ;)! Mary ===== Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:01:48 -0800 (PST) From: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wide saddles ? This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - --- Karen McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, if you are gonna plunk down a wad of cash on > an important investment > like a saddle, english or western, always insist on > trying it out first, if > at all possible. Most good tacksellers worth their > salt will alloooow this > for a deposit against the saddle I guess we are lucky out here - we have a tack shop in nearby Olympia where you can take your horse TO the shop(by appointment) and their saddlemaker will fit a saddle to the horse. We did this with our Fjord geldings several years ago. Mine was an easy fit: the first saddle we tried on him(an old 'beartrap' or 'ranch saddle' handmade in Idaho) fit him perfectly AND fit me also. The other horse was a real challenge! I lost count of how many saddles they tried on him before they found one which fit. After my husband rode in the saddle a few times it became obvious that the saddle was NOT a fit for HIM. The store took saddle back(in good condition, of course) and refunded our money. We later found a saddle which fit both my husband and the horse. These saddles are NOT all handmade saddles. The ones we were trying on our horses were 'off the rack' saddles - just looking for one that fit. As my husband's horse grew, he eventually needed a regular roping saddle with semi-QH bars - he's a BIG horse, over 15 hands and around 1400 pounds, with a huge stride and lots of 'body energy'. Maybe you can find a tack shop in your area, or a local saddle maker, that will offer the same service of fitting saddles to horses. It was a great help to us, as we had always driven our horses and were not used to fitting saddles. Mary ===== Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:55:44 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Webpage design This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peg wrote: > "...Doug ... is finding all sorts of fun things he can do > to our web site. Music is the latest. Now it's just a matter > of which Greig selections to put with each page...." Um, as an amateur website designer with a couple of years experience, I would like to gently suggest that you give the music idea some careful thought. At first blush, it truly is a neat idea to use music on a website, but music files and large image files can be truly exasperating for some website visitors to deal with. Music clips are usually much larger in size than simple text and small images. Many people have relatively slow internet connections -- especially those in rural areas -- and downloading a music clip at 26.4 kbs or even 56 kbs can be absolute murder to deal with. On top of that, even people with fast DSL or T1 internet connections may not want their computer to play music when they're surfing the web in the wee hours of the night or if they have a fussy toddler napping nearby. If adding music clips is the way you decide to go, you may want to consider the idea of creating an entry page without music that allows your visitors to choose the option of viewing your website with the music off. The rule of thumb I've heard that designers use for commercial websites is this: If a webpage takes more than roughly 10 seconds to load -- text, images, music, etc. -- most visitors will become impatient and leave. This is a killer if you're trying to sell people something. For private websites, I don't think thiis rule is quite so important, but I try to follow it anyway, especially when I design webpages people will view the most often. I often see "thumbnails" on commercial websites nowadays -- check http://www.llbean.com/ to see what I mean. Thumbnails are small images that are compressed and quick-loading -- just big enough for the viewer to get the idea of the image. If the viewer wants to see more detail, he/she can click on the thumbnail to view a larger (and slower loading) image. It's a nice way to "have your cake and eat it too". Wonderful large-size Fjord photos (had to work them horses into this message somehow!!!) can be handled nicely with the thumbnail approach. Visitors who really want to see the details can view the large image, but others who aren't interested can quickly surf to other parts of your website. Music clips could also be presented in a similar way -- click on a button if you want to listen to the clip as you look at the webpage. DeeAnna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:02:41 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: making wire fence visible This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are right, Mary. At $3.95 a pack it does add up, but, they stay in place and the "look" is very neat and orderly. I tried the tape and with our winds (Wild Wind Farm :):):) ) in a day or so they were all bunched up by the posts. Anyway, just another option :) Linda in Corcoran, MN - - sunny, no snow and it looks like we will have a green and brown Christmas -- boo,hoo! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:13:21 -0500 From: "carol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 2002 Shows This message is from: "carol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, The sooner I have the summer dates (2002) ... The better to plan ahead. I set my teaching schedule 8 months in advance ... so I need to know which days to take off. Please send any show dates available. "Hi there: Just wondering if anyone knows if the Fjord Show in Woodstock has a tentative date for 2002. If anyone has information in regards to this show could you please send them our way!!" Carol Tacey Totem Farm, Rhode Island www.painteasy.com/The-Farm.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:09:42 -0800 From: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Webpage design This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DeeAnna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Um, as an amateur website designer with a couple of years > experience, I would like to gently suggest that you give the music > idea some careful thought. [...] music files and large image files > can be truly exasperating for some website visitors to deal with. > > Music clips are usually much larger in size than simple text and > small images. Many people have relatively slow internet connections > -- especially those in rural areas -- Amen!!!! We have Fjords in part because we've lived in very rural areas. And, our phone lines have been sh*tty both places (with cell service unavailable). Not only does it take forever for stuff to load, but all-too-often, someone drops a packet, and the connection "stalls" (for several minutes), so I have to start over. IMHO, a lot of customers for Fjords are also going to be in rural areas, so one is well advised to design sites for the "lowest common denominator". If you want to add fancies, make it on "back" pages, and warn folks how long it'll take to load (or tell them how big the file is before they click on it). Marsha Jo Hannah Murphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:10:01 -0800 From: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wide saddles ? This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:46 AM 12/19/2001 +0000, you wrote: >This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Thanks for mentioning 'flare' Jean, as this is how the tree on my saddle was >modified before the leather was ever a part of the picture.. The bars, at >each end are flared out, so they "roll away" and avoid the shoulder and >kidney areas. It also fits THROUGH the back, not "bridging" it as many of >the regular off the rack saddles might do. I have a custom made endurance saddle (made for an Arab)...Judd is the maker I believe. It has that flare...but I have always felt a little uneasy about these saddles because they appear to have less area in contact with the horse's back. It think what is ACTUALLY happening though...is that the saddles that seem like they have a lot of contact are just bridging on the shoulders...and not touching in the middle where I cannot see what is happening. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:10:13 +0000 From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: saddle fittting? This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail, True fit boils down to using common sense observing how your horses back is after a ride, (wet spots? dry spots? evenly damp throughout??) and how the horse is moving & behaving (cinchy? un-even?) Do you think the arab saddle is bridging because it is made for a shorter, more level back than a fjord? Maybe. Mary, yes, I think it is really cool to drive up to your local tackstore for a custom fit. If this is available, its really the best way to go! I kinda did what you did, but instead of finished saddles, the saddlemaker brought out a bunch of trees we tried on between 2 differnt backed horses to come up with the best fit for both. Even at this, the tree needed modifying 2x after the first fit. Yikes! I know it is more of a commitment in time & $$ to get a saddle made from the tree up, but remember its gonna last close to forever. BTW, my saddlemaker (Ricotti) is also an engineer, and he suggested rolling back the ends of the bars.. There is so much saddle fitting info online I don't know where to begin, but the Genadek saddle that Jean mentioned is a start, and then I'd go plug away on Google. - ----Original Message Follows---- From: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a custom made endurance saddle (made for an Arab)...Judd is the maker I believe. It has that flare...but I have always felt a little uneasy about these saddles because they appear to have less area in contact with the horse's back. Gail Russell _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:04:26 -0500 From: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: solar powered fencer This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean Gayle wrote: > Lori that is interesting about batteries not freezing. My tractor battery > always freezes and I had to buy a new one every year until I finally now > keep a 60 watt light over it. Jean The key is that a battery has to be kept charged to not freeze. If you rarely use your tractor, the batteries charge could run down and then it could freeze. A lead acid battery needs to be used (re-charged) at least once a month. If you use your tractor less than that in the winter, or for short periods of time so the alternator can't fully re-charge it, the battery could lose its charge enough to freeze. Then your light-bulb will certainly come in handy for not allowing it to freeze. In seven years of Canadian winter our fence battery has never frozen because the solar panel keeps it charged. Lori ------------------------------ End of fjordhorse-digest V2001 #331 *********************************** Back issues are available by sending the following message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: get fjordhorse-digest vNN.nMMM where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number.