fjordhorse-digest Tuesday, December 4 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 317
In this issue:
Re: Help Please - Bad Farrier? Bad Trim? Emergency?
Speaking of: Escapes
Getting a Fjord from Norway
Re: Speaking of: Escapes
Re: Speaking of: Escapes
Re: Speaking of: Escapes
Re: Speaking of: Escapes
Fencing
Re: Speaking of: Escapes
Re: Speaking of: Escapes
Re: Fencing
Re: Help Please - Bad Farrier? Bad Trim? Emergency?
Re: Speaking of: Escapes
Introduction to the list.
Re: Introduction to the list.
Re: Where is the snow?!
Re: Where is the snow?!
Re: Fencing
Re: Introduction to the list.
inexpensive dressage ring
Re: Aloof Fjord
Close Call!!
Secret Santa
Secret Santa Sign Up!
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:41:34 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Please - Bad Farrier? Bad Trim? Emergency?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brigid, I have had very difficult problems with a most reliable farrier who
began to make mistakes. I now have a new one who did very well with my huge
warm blood gelding but then this last time trimmed my warmblood mare like a
quarter horse. She was lame all over for five days and $360 later. Vet. I
can only figure that after doing the 17+ the other horses appear smaller? I
mentioned to him that I liked her to have large feet but he did not do as I
asked.
I think I must take a stronger role even tho we do not have that much choice
in farriers.
Luckily the "friendlier one" Gunnar, is done well each time.
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:20:51 -0600
From: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Speaking of: Escapes
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Came home Sunday after breakfast to find my two fjordies out on the front
lawn! Fortunately the next door neighbor shut the driveway gate to the
highway, so no harm or danger but how they got the barn gate open
is a mystery. Off to the hardware store for a backup clip on the
gate. They were not easy to catch, too busy eating bluegrass.
Been enjoying some really pleasant crosscountry rides, looks like
a good run of mostly sunny weather this week, upper 40's
Happy Trails, Hope
N.IL
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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 13:37:52 -0800
From: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting a Fjord from Norway
This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have heard that in Norway the Geldings are generally sold for meat or
something, in other words they are killed. I guess the Norwegians don't
value Geldings the same as Americans do. Anyway I wanted to know
1) Is that true, about being killed as they have little value?
2) I am curious what it costs to bring a Gelding over to the states from
Norway. What does a typical, nothing fancy, Fjord gelding go for over there
in U.S. currency and what does it cost just to get the gelding overseas to
the U.S.
Deb
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:00:08 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hope, after the second time Gunnar lifted the gate off around his neck (he
reaches thru to get, you guessed it, grass on the other side) I wired it so
it can not be lifted. I know the holders can be reversed but could not get
the hinges off. It used to be difficult getting Gunnar from the field to
the barn as he stopped to get some grass. I just open the gate and call the
horses to the barn as the surround is closed. Now my new Corgi has made it
her job to see he gets to the barn, no training. It is quite a scene as she
furiously yaps and snaps at his heels and he bucks and kicks out in fury,
never touching her. Finally he with dignity romps to the barn as though it
was his idea from the beginning.
This spring new fencing will be put in. Think I have decided on 6x6 posts,
treated, with cedar boards. Any trouble with horses chewing those
posts??????????? Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:25:04 -0600
From: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Jean,
The little bit of wood fence around here got chewed to shreds until I ran one
strand of electric on top. They don't rub on it either. I also would probably
use treated 5" or 6" round posts from a farm or implement dealer which will be
at least 1/2 the price of a treated 6 X 6 (and just as strong).
Mark
Mariposa Farm
http://www.mariposafarm.com
Jean Gayle wrote:
>
>
> This spring new fencing will be put in. Think I have decided on 6x6 posts,
> treated, with cedar boards. Any trouble with horses chewing those
> posts??????????? Jean
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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 14:38:52 -0800
From: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They love chewing on the treated fence posts. Yummy! Nice soft wood. They
literally chewed thru a 4 inch post we had in one of the pens. I now use
creosote if I really do not want them chewed. Or hot wire.
>
>This spring new fencing will be put in. Think I have decided on 6x6 posts,
>treated, with cedar boards. Any trouble with horses chewing those
>posts??????????? Jean
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>
>
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>Jean Walters Gayle
>[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
>Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
>http://users.techline.com/jgayle
>Send $20
>Three Horses Press
>PO Box 104
>Montesano, WA 98563
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Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 13:44:29 -0900
From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes
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I would worry more about the cedar boards! My horses LOVE ceday..It is so
crunch and chews so easily! Must be tasty too!
Jean in Fairbanks Alaska, sunny and COLD, still -30F We need snow!
>This spring new fencing will be put in. Think I have decided on 6x6 posts,
>treated, with cedar boards. Any trouble with horses chewing those
>posts??????????? Jean
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Fairbanks, Alaska
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:31:09 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fencing
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Hello All,
Before we bought our animals, we put in all new fence around our place.
We used treated 4 x 4 posts and treated 2 x 6 lumber for the 3 rail fence.
Posts on 8 ft centers. It has worked out very well. (dug 85 postholes by
hand) Of course, since we have pigmy goats, we put welded wire fence on the
inside right to the ground to keep the little rascals in. We then put a hot
wire about 8 inches up from ground. This keeps the horse, donkey, alpaca and
sheep away from the welded wire so they don't get feet caught. Jean, the
lumber yards have lots of good treated lumber these days--and in your wet
area, it is certainly needed. (We have a son in Shelton and were there for
Thanksgiving so know your area) We have never had a chewing problem and for
that we are thankful. Our neighbors animals chew the boards all the time.
We have always wondered if it is a mineral missing that caused them to chew,
or just habit.
We are having a nice sunny 45 degree day in Othello, but more rain in
forecast.
Dave Sperl Othello, Washington
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:42:01 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jean I have never seen one crunch on the cedar boards in 23 years!!!! Yes
they do chew on the cedar posts so I put out chunks of fir. Only seems to
happen at certain times. But I now wonder about Gail's remarks re chewing on
treated posts! Anyone else using treated posts? Thought it would neaten up
the place as the cedar posts do not last long in the ground, they rot out
fast, no more "old growth cedar". Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:51:08 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thanks Mark the reason I have not chosen the round posts is I use cedar
boards and it would be difficult to set them on the round. I live on a
populated road and use the graduated fencing in the fields to keep dogs out.
The boards are around the house for several reasons, one of which is falling
limbs from huge trees. Would not want the limbs dragging out posts and wire
fencing. Would love that white fencing but did not love the price. Have
other things to do with my income. Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:59:19 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fencing
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Dave, thanks for the help. Sounds like only some animals chew on the
treated posts. I might stick one in for a test and see what happens. I
tried the low hot wire but could not keep up with the trimming as the grass
grew high and the horses were afraid to get near enough to trim it. Mostly
I used the low wire to keep my first fjord from pushing the wire fencing out
to get grass beyond the fence line. Gunnar loves to scratch his behind on
the fencing and bends the iron posts. I might put a wire about his behind
level! Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Send $20
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:17:59 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help Please - Bad Farrier? Bad Trim? Emergency?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 12/3/01 10:58:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I think I must take a stronger role even tho we do not have that much
choice
in farriers. >>
Hi Jean-
I think you said it all here. We must remember that despite the education,
experience, etc., of the professionals, WE are the owners and we know our
horses best. I can't count the times I've read on this list of someone
"suspecting" their horse had a physical problem which was undetected by vet
or farrier. Later, the problem made itself quite evident. I'm not trashing
vets or farriers ... they have their work cut out for them, and most do their
best, but for them it's a business. Your horse is one of many.
As a professional pet sitter, I have to be open minded to the many ways folks
care for their animals. I can't impose my ideas on them. If they ask for
advice, I give it. Otherwise I do what they tell me (within reason of
course)! Farriers should do the same, and accept without offense the
"stronger role" the owner plays.
Brigid M Wasson
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:03:06 -0600
From: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I found it easier to put boards against a round post than a square one.
Actually it's hard to line up the square face on the square posts so the board
sits right. By using the round posts the orientation of the post isn't as
critical.
I hear you on the white fencing!
Mark
Jean Gayle wrote:
> This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Thanks Mark the reason I have not chosen the round posts is I use cedar
> boards and it would be difficult to set them on the round. I live on a
> populated road and use the graduated fencing in the fields to keep dogs out.
> The boards are around the house for several reasons, one of which is falling
> limbs from huge trees. Would not want the limbs dragging out posts and wire
> fencing. Would love that white fencing but did not love the price. Have
> other things to do with my income. Jean
>
> Jean Walters Gayle
> [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
> Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
> http://users.techline.com/jgayle
> Send $20
> Three Horses Press
> PO Box 104
> Montesano, WA 98563
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Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 04:45:01
From: "Susan G. @-#--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Introduction to the list.
This message is from: "Susan G. @-#--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello all!
I have just joined this list, so here is a little introduction. My name is
Susan, and I am from Brisbane, Australia. I have just finished a three year
Bachelor of Applied Science (Equine Studies) at Charles Sturt University in
Wagga Wagga. I'm hoping to do veterinary science next year at Murdoch
University in Perth.
I currently do not own a horse, though I was leasing a TB gelding for the
last year. As far as fjords go, up until about three weeks ago I had never
even seen one that wasn't in a book. However, while I was at Equitana I
happened to see the Fjord horse display and stall, and became quite
enchanted:)
I only know of one fjord breeder in Australia, they are located in Victoria.
I am hoping to buy one in the near future. If there are any other Australia
fjord people out there, I'd love to get in touch about that :)
Susan G.
Brisbane, Australia
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:59:55 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Introduction to the list.
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Welcome Susan, I am sure you will find answers to your questions here on the
list. Great people. Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:13:00 +0100
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Subject: Re: Where is the snow?!
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Yes, you asked ... I'm living in Mannheim, this is at the confluence of
Rhine and Neckar.
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Anke, where are you in Germany? I think I asked before when I was coming
over but have forgotten, Jean
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Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:00:01 +0000
From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is the snow?!
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...snow?
There's some here now in N. Nevada. About 4" down here in the valley.
We got blasted yesterday afternoon - a great day to stay inside and bake a
Jewish Apple Cake ( a great recipe Becky Vorpagel gave me.)
Before the snow started, we thought it best to trailer 3 miles over to the
other ranch & check on the cows. It was really blowing & super cold; read:
tights under Wrangler's under chinks cold. I didn't want to put a nasty
freezing-cold bit in Alycias mouth, so I rode her in her bosal. She was a
star, and as frisky & forward as she got, never once took advantage of a
perfect situation to be naughty!
Together Dave & his Qtr/Arab mare, and Alycia and I cruised all the cows & 3
bulls, managed to check most of the fence and just make it in before the
snow started spitting.
At one point we were riding right into a hard wind from the south, so strong
I almost couldn't breathe, but it felt wonderful, our ponies pushing on in
an extended trot, finishing the circle on back to the trailer. They knew
where we were headed!
Before we left Dave obliged my wierd landscaping whims and did most of the
work of hefting into the horse trailer,(while I managed the huge one-piece
door in the wind), some gorgeously weathered hand hewn limestone corner
blocks that were strewn about where an old ranch building once stood.
wood chewing?...
Just a tip I learned from a native Nevadan about keeping horses penned in
dry lots: to keep 'em from chewing on your fences, toss in some old
un-painted & un-treated wood scraps (minus nails,etc.), or non-toxic
branches. Her small herd of 5 horses really has a field day with them,
dragging them hither and yon, and getting a good chew in as well - all with
no ill effects, and yes, wood fence still intact.
Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV
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Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:06:10 -0500
From: Mary McCready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fencing
This message is from: Mary McCready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jean Gayle wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dave, thanks for the help. Sounds like only some animals chew on the
> treated posts. I might stick one in for a test and see what happens.
They might chew a test post if it is standing out by itself? (curiosity)
but they wouldn't chew a post if your posts are set on the outside of
the boards with the post tops cut at an angle and below the top board?
(nothing sticking up to attract attention).
I know our fjords will chew treated wood (fence boards) in the areas
where they lounge, so now we use white oak for the boards, they don't
chew that and the oak boards are fairly affordable (around here anyway).
Very hard to nail though. Also have found dry softwood boards can snap
under pressure of strong fjord rear action, but the white oak does not.
Mary McCready
Parkhill ON Canada
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Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 07:23:55 -0600
From: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Introduction to the list.
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Susan G. @-#--" wrote:
> This message is from: "Susan G. @-#--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello all!
>
> I have just joined this list, so here is a little introduction. My name is
> Susan, and I am from Brisbane, Australia. I have just finished a three year
> Bachelor of Applied Science (Equine Studies) at Charles Sturt University in
> Wagga Wagga. I'm hoping to do veterinary science next year at Murdoch
> University in Perth.
>
> I currently do not own a horse, though I was leasing a TB gelding for the
> last year.
Hi Susan,
Welcome to the list. It is nice to hear from someone so far away. I don't
believe we have many on this list from down under.
- --
"Built FJORD tough"
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
Northern Wisconsin
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:19:29 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: inexpensive dressage ring
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While at "Dressage in the Wine Country" evening of fantastic horse ride/drive
exhibitions, they only put in the corners and a short span in the middle of
each long side.........looked elegant, and could still use whole arena by
being able to pass through the dressage arena in the open areas.
Can use empty buckets of Strongid, Platinum Performance, kids' soccer
cones (found them for $.99 each), whatever is cheap and handy for your
letters.....but put markers out for ALL the side letters.....too hard to
guestimate 20 meter circle when only using the minimal amount.
Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 06:31:54 -0800 (PST)
From: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aloof Fjord
This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yeah, I'm behind, 2-3 digests as usual. I also noted
this aloofness in just about every Fjord, I think they
are careful about where they put their trust at first.
None of ours have had bad experiences (that I know)
but I am now used to giving them a little time to get
to know the rest of the herd (that goes faster than
the human part of the herd) and before we ask anything
of them. I start right out with my usual
barn/stall/crosstie/trailer etiquette, that is
expected, but try to spend some time "getting to know"
a new fjord and they turn around slowly. Takes couple
weeks to couple months (hard core guy, that one) and
then you are cheerfully accepted and bugged as one of
the herd. I do love this as my previous horses
(Thorobreds) were never interested in humans other
than as a feed source. All this Fjord
talking/wuffling/noises are great.
Marsha in sunny warm VA, why do I have to work?, to
pay the feed bills, of course.
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:51:19 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Close Call!!
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Happy Holidays, Listers!!
Minnesota is experiencing warm temperatures - snow is melting - and this
morning is foggy and balmy. After I put hay out for Sven and Lena I
absentmindedly left the large main gate open. When Lena went out another
barn door I turned to go get Sven. As he went out the barn door I noticed
Lena was not in sight!! Suddenly I remembered the gate!!!!
She was wandering around the yard - he started running to join her. Both
were "tails up and lookin' for fun!!!" -- BUT, let's eat first :):):)
At the first sight of green grass, both heads were down! I got a lead rope
and gently and quietly led them back to their paddock. Remember, it is foggy
this am and if they had decided to "have a run" it could have been a horrible
disaster:(
There are times when that urge to eat comes in real handy:):):)
Another balmy day forecast for tomorrow and then it cools down again.
Best to everyone!!
Linda in Minnesota
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:32:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Secret Santa
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I have had enough private response that I will return
as Santa's elf this year to run the Secret Santa.
I returned late last night from Sacramento (cold and
very rainy) where I help move my mother from into an
assisted living apartment (very sad for her). If you
will give me until tomorrow I will get some rules
posted for the Secret Santa.
Yours in elfdom,
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Las Cruces, NM
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:28:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Secret Santa Sign Up!
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Everyone is welcome to participate. The "suggested
gift
price" is around $25.00. People who live in Canada or
overseas will be matched in-country as much as
possible. If you wish to participate "worldwide," so
indicate.
If you would like to be part of the Secret Santa gift
exchange, you must e-mail me by December 10th with the
subject line heading, "FH-L Secret Santa." I will
e-mail you notification of your recipient by Dec.
12th.
Because we are starting a little late this year,
please have your gifts to your recipient by January
15th at the latest. You are obligating yourself to
participate when you accept your Secret Santa
recipient's name. Please don't dissapoint someone by
signing up and then not doing your part.
A list of Secret Santa participants will be posted to
the list by January 20th so that those who have not
identified their Secret Santa can make sure they send
the appropriate acknolwedgements. Do make sure your
S.S. knows his or her gift has been received.
If you want to post clues to the list for your Secret
Santa recipient and remain anonymous, you can mail
e-mail your clues to me for posting from the "ELF"
Please send the following information for your Secret
Santa:
Name:
Email:
Mailing Address:
Delivery Address:
Phone (required for UPS/FED-EX delivery):
What you would most like from your Secret Santa:
What your horse/s would most like from your Secret
Santa:
What size t-shirt or sweat shirt you like - just in
case!):
These ideas are not binding, but people appreciate
having an idea of what you'd like!
DEADLINE FOR SIGNING UP FOR SECRET SANTA: DECEMBER
10TH.
Your Secret Santa ELF,
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Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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