fjordhorse-digest Tuesday, February 25 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 054
In this issue:
A.S. Rinska bloodlines
RE: Loki's picture
Re: Evaluation results and record book
Re: Evaluation results and record book
Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd
Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd
Re: Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd
Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd (fixed)
Tim Hamlet's Victor
waverly sale
Great Seminar
Re: A.S. Rinska bloodlines
Re: Tim Hamlet's Victor
Horse & Camels and other exotics
Re: Horse & Camels and other exotics
Re: Broken Axis
Re: Broken Axis
broken axis
Grooming Your Fjord Video
Grabbson
Re: Grabbson
Re: Grabbson
See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues.
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:54:14 +0000
From: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A.S. Rinska bloodlines
This message is from: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I do not know anything about A.S. Rinska, but I am familiar with her
bloodlines since they are German.? Modellin is by Rei Halsnaes,
Danish-bred and later imported into Germany.? Rei Halsnaes is the sire of
at least 2 national champions that I know of, Rei Romanow, the current
national champion who has a previous national championship and was the
impressive Fjord stallion in the stall beside the IGF booth at Euro
Cheval last year.? Rei Halsnaes is also the sire of Jon Halsnaes, a
former national champion (and Ricka's sire).? He is the German stallion
on lease to a farm in Scotland and was considered important enough that a
wealthy Fjord patron donated money to get him over there.? VEH Kvest
Halsnaes, another former national champion, is a great-grandson of Rei
Halsnaes (VEH is Verband Elite Hengst, a designation for a stallion
designated as Elite by the breeders association, in this case Ponies aus
Hessen (Verband der Ponyz?chter Hessen, e.V.).? Also at the Elite Mare
Show in Erbach last year at least 11 of the 18 mares that got 1-3 Pr?mie
had the Rei Halsnaes bloodline, including the champion 6-7 year old mare,
Lalina, who was also overall Reserve Champ?on Fjord Mare.? Lalina is by
Kvest Halsnaes and is out of a mare by Jon Halsnaes.?A.S. Rinska's dam is
by Olger.? He is also the sire of VEH Ohlsen.? The Fjord Stammtisch in
Ober Ostern last year featured a slide presentation by a man who took
Ohlsen on 3 trips in the Alps from the Allg?u in Southern Bavaria to the
Austrian Alps.? Ohlsen is super impressive and has one of the most
beautiful heads I have ever seen on a horse.? He's also atheltic,
willing, intelligent and has a super temperament, based on what I? saw in
this slide presentation.? Olger is also the sire of the mare, Gwenn, who
won 1st Pr?mie in the 4 year old Fjord mare class at the Elite Mare Show
in Erbach.?With her pedigree this A.S. Rinska has the potential to be a
very fine mare worth serious consideration.?Sandra, Loki is beautiful and
looks really super in harness.? More later.?Loretta, congratulations,
your son is now a member of "The Few, the Proud, the Jarheads."? I was in
the Navy a few years and sailors call the Marines Jarheads because of
those high and tight haircuts they have (but not to their faces which can
be dangerous to your health).? Actually one of the best officers I ever
served with was our Marine Corps officer in the NROTC Unit Hampton
Roads.? The Gunny was a fine senior NCO too.? Like the Navy, the Marines
are one of America's elite fighting forces.? He will have good training
and good leadership at Marine Boot Camp and you can be very proud of him.?Linda
in Reichelsheim until I move to Lindenfels Saturday
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:06:53 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Loki's picture
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 06:36 PM 2/23/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Sandra, check the spelling of the link and re-send. I clicked on you link
>and get no page.
There is a space in it at the end Fred. Just delete the space & it works fine.
Mike
>Fred
>
>All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus.
>Fred and Lois Pack
>Pack's Peak Stables
>Wilkeson, Washington 98396
>http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158
>
>
>
>
>This message is from: "sandra church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>You're welcome to check us out at www.catalystdriving.com
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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY 14580-0685
Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:04:24 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Evaluation results and record book
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 10:38 AM 2/23/2003 -0900, you wrote:
>This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Mike May,
>Are there going to be available supplements to the RECORD BOOK?
Yes. Volume 2 is being planned for printing in the spring of 2004 as of
now. It will include all of the Evaluations that have been held (or will
be held this year) since Volume 1 was printed.
>And there
>must have been photos taken of all horse evaluated, you (or someone else?)
>must have at least the photos of those receiving reds and blue?
There are photos of them.
> Is there
>any way of seeing some of these photos, especially of the Fjords in
>Hamlett's herd that were evaluated in the 2002 Galena evaluation? Do you
>have these photos?
Yes I do have them.
>
>Could you email these pictures to interested parties?
I could but please wait a day or so & I think they are going to be on a web
site for everyone to be able to see them. That is all I can say about it
at the moment though because I just finished answering the email asking me
if it was ok to do. Hopefully you will see an announcement soon though.
>Just an idea, I am sure we all would like to see pictures of some of these
>evaluated fjords going to auction.
Yes I am sure it would help.
I will look up the scores they got in the Evaluation & post them soon.
Mike
>Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska
>
> >I noticed in the Winter 2002/3 issue of the Fjord Herald the 2002 Galena
> >Evaluation results listed A.S. Rinska, Amanda's beauty, North creek Gjoi,
> >and Skyview Sven all getting reds in conformation, altho there isn't a
> >numerical score given. Seems to me these might me some nice fjords and Tim
> >was trying to do something right.
> >
> >Also, Rinska is a Modellin daughter, and her dam was a red dun, imported
> >from Germany.
>
>************************************************************
>Jean Ernest
>Fairbanks, Alaska
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY 14580-0685
Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:05:36 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Evaluation results and record book
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 10:47 AM 2/23/2003 -0900, you wrote:
>This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>OK, another idea...Would it be possible to upload the photos which will be
>in the Record Book to the pedigree page for that particular horse along
>with evaluation scores? (For all evaluated fjords)
>Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska
That is possible but the pictures are supposed to be uploaded by the
owners. I will have to think about that one. I may do it in this case.
Mike
> >Mike May,
> >Are there going to be available supplements to the RECORD BOOK? And there
> >must have been photos taken of all horse evaluated, you (or someone else?)
> >must have at least the photos of those receiving reds and blue? Is there
> >any way of seeing some of these photos,
>************************************************************
>Jean Ernest
>Fairbanks, Alaska
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY 14580-0685
Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:24:48 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linda,
> The mare you said you could not read the letters:
>
>
Thank you! So that would be:
<A
HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1119&HorseName=annika&Page=1&Sort=0";>ANNIKA</A>
JW-Z-659-M 1986-04-01 Trained mare, has never had a foal, but
checked by specialist.
Lynda
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:23:33 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 01:04 PM 2/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>For those of you without a flyer, here are the horses and information as
>listed in the Waverly flyer, with links to the NFHR pedigree page, being
>auctioned from Hamlett's herd:
>
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=692
>GRABBSON</A> NFR-Y-150-S 1985-06-17 Untrained stallion, evaluated
>red.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 70
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=784 RO SANDY'S KATE
>C-669</A> BOF-D-477-M 1990-02-06 Trained mare, thrown
>gray, evaluated blue. Bred to Grabbson.
This is a Blue Ribbon mare
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 82 (Blue Earth 2000)
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4668 AMANDA'S
>BEAUTY C-621</A> EIL-C-1393-M 1989-06-15 Trained mare. Is bred with
>colt at side.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 72.75
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4765 NORTH CREEK
>GJOI</A> KS-K-1411-M 1997-05-06 Trained and bred mare.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 79 (one point short of a Blue)
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200024 SKYVIEW
>SVEN</A> TH-K-1009-G 1997-05-31 Gelding, trained.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 74.5
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372 A. S.
>RINSKA</A> PAM-H-795-M 1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to Grabbson.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 73
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100406 SKYVIEW
>HENRY</A> TH-P-1645-S 2002-05-05 Colt.
This one is out of Guri the imported Norwegian mare & was bred in Norway to
the stallion named HERMANN N-96-2707
><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100379 VIKTOR FRA
>SKARHAUG N-00-2529</A> N-N-1555-S 2000-06-13 Stallion imported from
>Norway, evaluated as a 2 year old with a yellow.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 69
Hope this helps some of you out.
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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY 14580-0685
Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:25:57 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Well that didn't come out very well! I will resend the other one with the
right links. Sorry about that.
Mike
At 08:23 AM 2/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>At 01:04 PM 2/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>For those of you without a flyer, here are the horses and information as
>>listed in the Waverly flyer, with links to the NFHR pedigree page, being
>>auctioned from Hamlett's herd:
>>
>><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=692
>>GRABBSON</A> NFR-Y-150-S 1985-06-17 Untrained stallion, evaluated red.
>>Score on Conformation Evaluation was 70
>> ><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=784 RO SANDY'S
>> KATE C-669</A> BOF-D-477-M 1990-02-06 Trained mare, thrown
>> >gray, evaluated blue. Bred to Grabbson.
>>This is a Blue Ribbon mare
>>Score on Conformation Evaluation was 82 (Blue Earth 2000)
>> ><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4668 AMANDA'S
>> BEAUTY C-621</A> EIL-C-1393-M 1989-06-15 Trained mare. Is bred with
>> >colt at side.
>>Score on Conformation Evaluation was 72.75
>> ><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4765 NORTH CREEK
>> GJOI</A> KS-K-1411-M 1997-05-06 Trained and bred mare.
>>Score on Conformation Evaluation was 79 (one point short of a Blue)
>> ><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200024 SKYVIEW
>> SVEN</A> TH-K-1009-G 1997-05-31 Gelding, trained.
>>Score on Conformation Evaluation was 74.5
>> ><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372 A. S.
>> RINSKA</A> PAM-H-795-M 1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to Grabbson.
>>Score on Conformation Evaluation was 73
>> ><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100406 SKYVIEW
>> HENRY</A> TH-P-1645-S 2002-05-05 Colt.
>>This one is out of Guri the imported Norwegian mare & was bred in Norway
>>to the stallion named HERMANN N-96-2707
>> ><A HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100379 VIKTOR
>> FRA SKARHAUG N-00-2529</A> N-N-1555-S 2000-06-13 Stallion imported from
>>Norway, evaluated as a 2 year old with a yellow.
>
>Score on Conformation Evaluation was 69
>
>
>Hope this helps some of you out.
>
>
>=======================================================
>
>Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
>Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
>PO Box 685
>Webster, NY 14580-0685
>
>Voice 585-872-4114
>FAX 585-787-0497
>
>http://www.nfhr.com
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY 14580-0685
Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:31:50 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd (fixed)
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 01:04 PM 2/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello everyone,
For those of you without a flyer, here are the horses and
information as
listed in the Waverly flyer, with links to the NFHR pedigree
page, being
auctioned from Hamlett's herd:
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=692
GRABBSON??? NFR-Y-150-S???? 1985-06-17? Untrained stallion,
evaluated red. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 70
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=784
RO SANDY'S KATE C-669?? BOF-D-477-M???? 1990-02-06? Trained mare,
thrown
gray, evaluated blue.? Bred to Grabbson.
This is a Blue Ribbon mare
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 82 (Blue Earth 2000)
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4668
AMANDA'S BEAUTY C-621?? EIL-C-1393-M 1989-06-15? Trained mare.?
Is bred with colt at side.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 72.75
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4765
NORTH CREEK GJOI KS-K-1411-M??? 1997-05-06? Trained and bred
mare.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 79 (one point short of a
Blue)
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200024
SKYVIEW SVEN TH-K-1009-G 1997-05-31 Gelding, trained.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 74.5
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372
A. S. RINSKA PAM-H-795-M 1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to
Grabbson.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 73
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100406
SKYVIEW HENRY?? TH-P-1645-S 2002-05-05 Colt.
This one is out of Guri the imported Norwegian mare & was bred in
Norway to the stallion named HERMANN? N-96-2707
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100379
VIKTOR FRA SKARHAUG N-00-2529 N-N-1555-S? 2000-06-13 Stallion
imported from Norway, evaluated as a 2 year old with a yellow.
Score on Conformation Evaluation was 69
Hope this helps some of you out.
=======================================================
Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY? 14580-0685
Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY? 14580-0685
???????????????????????????????????????
Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:09:27 -0600
From: "Norsk Wood Works" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tim Hamlet's Victor
This message is from: "Norsk Wood Works" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Some of what Pattie Jo wrote about the Norwegian Evaluation process with
regards to the stallion Victor may be a bit misleading. Viktor was evaluated
at less than two years of age when Tim purchased him in Norway. At the time
the problem with his front legs was not detected. As the stallion matured the
problem developed. It is interesting to note that his sire Veslekar was
licensed to breed as a three year old and Veslekar lost his license to breed
as a five year old at the six week station evaluation in Nordfjordeid, the
same year Tim bought Victor.
The evaluation process seems to be very conservative with young stallions both
here and in Norway. Had Victor stayed in Norway he would have had to be
evaluated again at age three to have a license to breed mares. Victor was not
licensed. Had Victor gained a license at age three he would have been called
back at age five to retain the license or be gelded. You can be quite sure
that Norwegian judges know a broken axis when they see one. I believe it takes
a well trained eye to see the difference between a broken axis and long soft
pasterns. Victor was a stallion prospect when Tim bought him. Tim did the
right thing and had him evaluated at Galena. The problem turned up and now he
should be gelded. He is a very nice looking horse.
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:21:24 -0600
From: "Dave & Patti Jo Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: waverly sale
This message is from: "Dave & Patti Jo Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If everyone who is going to the Waverly sales wants to contact me or post it
to the list, I'll keep track and post it the week of the sale. If nothing
else, perhaps we can try and meet each other? Kind of exciting knowing I'll
beable to place a face with a name!
I'm going along with Bonnie Liermann.
Patti Jo Walter
Francis Creek Fjords
Two Rivers, WI
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:59:03 -0800
From: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Great Seminar
This message is from: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello EVERYONE. Happy Monday!
We are all tired at HESTEHAVEN.... We had a wonderful and long weekend with
the first of the West Coast Fjord Forums under the bridge. WOW! What a
weekend!
Wayne Hipsley shared so much of his knowledge and expertise with everyone
that attended. The seminar was EXCELLENT! Wayne shared videos, slides and
overheads with us... We watched Gayle and Anne's performance at Libby, MT
and Beth and her group in CO with the 2002 and 2003 performances... Talk
about watching the BEST of the BEST...
For those that could not attend... we are sorry you missed out on this very
educational weekend. All we can say is that maybe next time we will see you
at the WCFF.
It was wonderful to meet old friends... ..and Fantastic to meet new FJORD
Friends!
The next WCFF is April 4,5,6, 2003. Subject matter is handling your Fjord
on the ground for the NFHR Evaluations, Riding the NFHR Beginning and
Advance Riding Tests and more FORM to FUNCTION of the FJORD. (This is also
a great clinic to take if you just want good instructions about riding or
handling your fjord for everyday work.) Our speaker and Clinician will be
Karen Maas from Michigan. She is a Fjord Judge, NFHR Evaluator and a carded
Judge in several other breeds and organizations. This is a clinic where
your Fjord is invited to attend. (Advance reservations for stalls is a
must.)
Gayle Ware mentioned that her and Dusty will come and demonstrate the
patterns... So... if you want to see this dynamic dual.... here's a chance.
We wish everyone well and we THANK everyone that attended and made the First
WCFF so successful! A special thank you to Wayne Hipsley for coming all the
way out to educate us!
Catherine Lassesen (Rune too!)
HESTEHAVEN
Southern Oregon
PS... "HI MOM" from AMY
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:36:16 -0800
From: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A.S. Rinska bloodlines
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My now ex-stallion Romulus is a Rei Halsnaes grandson. He has a gorgeous
head (it might have come from Ola Gik, not Rei Halsnaes), a gorgeous
shoulder/neck, (although someone said he might have a thick throatlatch at
the evaluation....(not on his eval from what I remember offhand)...and I
certainly do not see it!). He is short-backed (very). Has a bit of a lack
of muscling on the top of his hip, and has a low tail-set that he passes on
(not his best feature). His length of hip is fine, so I am told. He has
been criticized for having his hind legs set too far under. If you watch
him move, I can kinda see it....he looks like his hind legs tip underneath
him...or, alternatively he can stand "camped out behind." It is like he
rotates to far back or too far forward from the back of his hip (there is a
better way to say this.)\
He has beautiful floating movement...elevated in front...but possibly at the
expense of hindquarter strength....his back-end "cheats" a bit.
He got a blue at Libby. I was told not to castrate him because he has good
bloodlines...but he was just too much of a handful b/c he was not trained
young. I was told to breed him to "drafty" mares....in hopes of rounding
out the top of the hip, I suppose. Oh...he has gorgeous feet.
>
>I do not know anything about A.S. Rinska, but I am familiar with her
>bloodlines since they are German.? Modellin is by Rei Halsnaes,
>Danish-bred and later imported into Germany.
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:32:56 -0800
From: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tim Hamlet's Victor
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It is interesting to note that his sire Veslekar was
>licensed to breed as a three year old and Veslekar lost his license to breed
>as a five year old at the six week station evaluation in Nordfjordeid, the
>same year Tim bought Victor.
Does anyone remember why Veslekar lost his license? Seems to me his way of
going might have been a problem....possibly he let his legs hang down when
free-jumping....to the point where his jumping style might have resulted in
a nasty spill? OR was that another horse?
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:07:15 -0800
From: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Horse & Camels and other exotics
This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi everyone,
We are facing a possible dilemma at our riding club and I wondered if
any of you could add your experiences to help us out.
The landowner across from our saddle club grounds has purchased a camel
and intends to start breeding them. The camel can be seen and heard and
smelled from much of the saddle club grounds and is directly across the
street from where exhibitors and members park there trailers for shows
and other functions.
The landowner has requested a rule change for the county regulations to
permit camels and other exotic/zoo animals. Current regulations permit
livestock, which includes horses, cows, sheep, pigs, and fowl.
The saddle club is very concerned about horse responses to the camel and
other potential exotics/zoo animals along with any liability the saddle
club may assume if an accident/injury occurs due to the camel (or any
future exotics/zoo animals). They feel the camel and others animals
pose a threat while exhibitors/members work and show their horses on the
grounds.
Can anyone help me out with some input from current/past experiences?
Thanks,
Taffy Mercer
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:21:07 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Horse & Camels and other exotics
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Taffy all I have had experience with is elephants who came to our
fairgrounds and were shown in the indoor arena. Most horses took the odors
and sounds in stride but the hyper ones, my Charley, spooked at odors and
piles, and are they piles!!!! Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:27:29 -0800 (PST)
From: SUSAN GIARGIARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Broken Axis
This message is from: SUSAN GIARGIARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello List! Sure wish I was going to the sale!! I do want to share an
experience that I had with one of the evaluators judging a fjord show and after
the show was done for the day......the judge(see.........no he or she) so
you'll never know!!........was walking around the stalls......I asked the
judges opinion of my horse.......it was a young one...and he said it was great
......except for it had broken axis on it's front feet.....I didn't reply as
the judge went on to some other points......and then I started asking opinions
and just looking myself, after I understood what a Broken Axis is.......When
you looked at this horses feet, the coronary band had quite a puff of hair
sticking out all around the coronary band and had good hairy fetlocks.....which
of course,,,we leave our fjords hairy!! LOL! .and yes it did look like a broken
axis.......but it isn't.. I felt the hair,,,,,i shaved off the hair when I got
home........no broken axis.......So, my question is.....was thi!
s stallion evaluated by the judge that said my horse has a broken axis? just
curious....oh,,,,,,,other fjord breeders and owners,,,,other horse breed owners
and two vets have said , no, there is no broken axis..... Now, this will narrow
it down a bit ....when the dutch came to evaluate fjords in 2000........this
horse received an A premium.........no broken axis......on the conformation
sheet....I have not been to an American Evaluation since the first one back
East, years back!! But am planning and saving now,,,,to bring horses to the
Ohio Eval this September! I won't have a problem bringing this horse to an
evaluation. Now that I am comfortable with what a Broken Axis is and looks
like...........if need be.....if the same judge is there......I will shave the
lower legs!! LOL!! This is not meant to put down any of the
Evaluators......but seeing the talk go to Norway and that they don't look for
that,,,,and how the NFHR Evals.. will change the fjords......I don't think !
that will happen! If you were to be technical......alot of t!
he horses and maybe Tim's too, are from Norway, Holland, Sweeden,
Germany.........and are bred here in the states to stallions that are also
imported.....so technically........all of the offspring are really first hand
out of imports!! Even Hilmar is "an import" from Holland as he came Inutero!!
Out of a Dutch Mare/ by a Dutch Stallion.....The other mares I have come from
Holland! I wonder what the ratio is now or if you can tell from the Pedigree
Site...how many fjords are totally american or canadian bred? be interesting to
see!
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:12:55 -0500
From: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Broken Axis
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
SUSAN GIARGIARI wrote:
>This is not meant to put down any of the Evaluators......but seeing the
>talk go to Norway and that they don't look for that,,,,and how the NFHR
>Evals.. will change the fjords......I don't think that will happen!
I agree. Norwegian evaluators know conformation and pastern angles are part
of that. I wanted to respond to the comment about seeing a Norwegian
stallion in a photo and he exhibited a broken axis. I had an experience a
while back, I used to do Julie's web site and she sent me a photo of a sale
horse to put on the site. This photo showed a horse with a broken axis in
its pastern - it looked like a club foot, very unattractive - and I wrote
back to ask if the horse had always been that way. She saw what I was seeing
in the photo and had to run out to the barn to assure herself that her horse
was not really that way. It was just a trick of the camera, light, and the
hair around the coronary band. The horse's conformation was fine. I think
you can only know for sure if you see it in person and can palpate the
pastern joint to remove the variable of hair.
Lori
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:23:26 -0600
From: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: broken axis
This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I don't know that I've ever seen a horse with a broken axis or if I did I
didn't know it was a broken axis. Anyone got any pictures at a website they
can post? Is it that the "line" through the pasturn traveling through the
hoof is not straight? thanks. Debby
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:54:40 -0800
From: "Sally Maitland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Grooming Your Fjord Video
This message is from: "Sally Maitland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
?Hi list, I was just wondering if anyone knew the name, or e-mail
address?of the fellow from the NFHR that is selling videos on grooming
your fjord... I would really like to purchase a copy or 2 for the
Fjord'ers out on the coast!Thanks!?Sally MaitlandBC, Canada
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:07:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Grabbson
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have known Grabbson since before he was sold to Tim.
He was sold by Harold Jacobson to Bill Steavenson who
sold him to Tim just after I bought Tank from
Steavenson. Bill loved this horse. I have a picture of
him with his arm around Grabbson's neck taken five
years before I bought Tank and the first time I got to
meet Fjords after seeing my first one.
Many of you know Tank, who has been a great Fjord
ambassodor for Fjords since I bought him at age two
from Steavenson. We just attended a Jeff Morse driving
clinic (more later) and Jeff called him talented (any
problems with him are mostly driver caused - no
surprise there).
Tank has great personality, smarts, and "talent." We
have down two CDE's and will be doing more. He has
been a healthy and happy horse in the nine years I
have owned him. My grandaughters started riding him
and driving him at age six and seven when they came to
visit and at Blue Earth for several years.
I am uploading a picture of Tank under his registered
name of Hjerte Barn (means "apple of my eye") into the
NFHR pedigree search if any are interested in a
picture of one of Grabbson's get.
Grabbson has been around since well before the
evaluation system and the many new imported horses.I
believe that until fairly recently he represented some
of the best of the breed. Maybe at 18, his time has
passed as an important stallion, there are now better
ones. However, I think he deserves to be saved. I wish
I could do it.
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Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:08:35 -0800
From: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Grabbson
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So is there anyone of those who are going who wants to purchase him?....or
is he in the "rescue" category at this point?
>
>Grabbson has been around since well before the
>evaluation system and the many new imported horses.I
>believe that until fairly recently he represented some
>of the best of the breed.
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:27:04 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Grabbson
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 2/25/2003 12:47:55 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< >Grabbson has been around since well before the
>evaluation system and the many new imported horses.I
>believe that until fairly recently he represented some
>of the best of the breed.
It is my understanding that Grabbson is considered "at risk" by the UEF and
will be under careful watch to see that he is not purchased by meat buyers.
Those of you who are new to the fjordlist may not be aware of the interesting
story of Grabbson's sire.....Grabb. There is a lengthy discussion in the
archives. The history of Grabb is facinating and such an important part of
the early importation of fjords to America .......... IMO Grabbson deserves
to live out his life in a caring and safe home.
It is with pride I tell my friends and family how our fabulous fjord
community is supporting Tim Hamlett and his fjord friends. It sounds like
there will be quite a contingent of "fjord enthusiasts" at the Waverly sale -
my daughter and I hope to attend but unfortunately, my husband is keeping the
checkbook and my Visa card at home that day :( AWWWWW, he's no fun - haha!!
Enjoy the day everyone - Linda in MN -2 with a warm up on the way
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