This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm -

 I wanted to respond to Mike's comment that Video Evaluation of stud colts
be made public the same as the regular evaluations.  --

 Subject: Re: Carol's idea> This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR"
:
>>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   If this sort of video
Evaluation was
> ever to really happen wouldn't the education value of it be worth having
> the results public?  I would guess if the results were really good the
> owner would be publishing them in all of their ads wouldn't they?
>
> Mike
>



I think this information should be between the evaluator and the owner,
unless the owner wishes to make it public.  --  And I think there should be
a distinction between this service to stud colt owners offered by the NFHR
and performed by NFHR Evaluators, and actual Evaluations.

This service would have another name.  It would not be an Evaluation even
though the video would be "evaluated" or judged by NFHR Evaluators.  ---
Call it something else  because it is not a true evaluation.  ---  It is a
SERVICE to NFHR members who have stud colts, and who need help making the
big decision.

Deciding whether or not to geld is really a serious problem.  ---  As
someone pointed out --  There have been a quite a few top notch stallions
and mares imported to the U.S. and Canada, and it's very possible that some
of these horses are breeding top notch offspring.  --  It's probable that
some top notch colts are born to owners who are not breeders -  just
owners --  and, they don't have the knowledge to make the decision to geld
or not to geld.

However, it's not just the amateur breeders who could use some expert
advice.  All of us could.  All of us who cannot get to Evaluations with
Wayne Hipsley, etc.  I certainly can't living up in Nova Scotia, and it's
not always easy to make this decision.

This service, as I envision it, is not an Evaluation in the normal sense of
that function.  It's simply asking an expert Fjord person's judgement to
help the owner make a sound decision.  --  We have these people.  We've
trained these people.  Why not use them in this way?  How can it hurt
anything as long as the system decided on is well thought out and everybody
understands the limitations ---- If there are, indeed, any  significant
limitations.

Most of the horses Beaver Dam Farm sells are sold by video tapes.   When I
make my sales tapes, I try to show everything possible about the horse.  I
think of this video sales tape as a subsitute for the buyer's personal
visit.  My tapes are much longer than the recommended 10 min. sales
ape.  --  I want the customer to see exactly the horse he may be
etting.  --

When we're approached to accept a consignment horse, I ask for a video tape,
and ask that the horse be shown in certain ways so that I can see what I'm
getting.   I've always been able to get a good idea of the horse this way.

Catherine had a lot of good advice, but I don't agree with her that it's so
easy to keep stud colts around.  It's not easy, and it's not safe!  I
personally think it's crazy to keep a colt whole unless there's very good
reason to think him a stallion prospect.  --  It's asking for trouble!

Yes, of course, the ideal situation would be to take your colt to an
Evaluation as they do in Europe and let the Evaluator have his say.  ---
However, this is not going to happen in N/A in the vast majority of
ases.  --  Owners have to make their own decisions, and they could use help
doing it.  This would be a wonderful service the Registry could offer its
members.

As to private or not private  --- Thinking about this as an aid to the
owners (a Service), my inclination is to say it should be kept private by
both parties (owners and NFHR Evaluator) -   Afterall, it's not an official
Evaluation --

As I originally said, I think the BOD of NFHR should consider this idea, and
decide whether or not it's a service that could be valuable to the breed and
to owner/members, and then if the answer is "Yes", that's the time to work
out the details.

Regards,  Carol Rivoire

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