This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We had a male donkey here for a year or so -- he was wonderful with people, pulled a cart like a champ, loved the mares and foals -- and tried to KILL any male horse he could reach. On the few times I tried turning him out with a gelding, he attacked by going for the throat. If he got a good hold, he would hang on like a snapping turtle until we ran out there and beat him off. He once grabbed a huge 17-hand Standardbred gelding by the throat and wouldn't let go -- I will never forget the look of sheer terror on that big guy's face until we got there to rescue him. The donkey was 11 hands, by the way, and afraid of nothing. His name was Macaroni, and his bad behavior was known as a "Big Mac attack." We still keep a female donkey, she is just wonderful. We can turn her out with anybody, and she is the best baby-sitter on the farm. What a love! Jan