This message is from: Rovena Kessinger <ro_k...@yahoo.com>
Yes. And with a Carlos Castenada quote. :) Something he got from a dream, I'm sure. Lucid dreaming and clicker training have been the most fun and interesting things I have ever learned. I was trying to think of a way to combine the two, clicker train myself to lucid dream more, but haven't got it figured out yet. --- On Sat, 6/22/13, Mary Ofjord <ma...@boreal.org> wrote: From: Mary Ofjord <ma...@boreal.org> Subject: Animal Smarts................. To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Saturday, June 22, 2013, 6:44 PM This message is from: "Mary Ofjord" <ma...@boreal.org> I agree with Robin's statement and the type of thinking - the animals are not 'intelligent' almost had me walking out of my job several years ago. One of my fellow co-workers - an attorney that graduated from Exeter, no less, said something in passing about the "stupid ducks." I said, ducks aren't stupid, they are only being ducks - that's all they know how to do. You can't judge intelligent from only the human's view. This escalated into a - "you're-an- idiot-and-I'm not," argument and I threatened to walk away from trying to reason with him. We could not agree on any common ground for either argument. The outcome, and I've run across this type of thinking before, is that there are some folks who believe animals have lower intelligence than humans, and some that believe that they have an equal or higher intelligence. Yes, we have the technology, but great apes don't have to communicate by using their thumbs! (Sorry. I had to put this in!) Geese are able to fly south without having to use a giant fuel-burning aircraft. Horses communicate with subtle body languages that most humans don't pick up. Each animal on the planet is not stupid by reason of what they are, and we, as humans, should not place judgment upon them. Here is quote from Carlos Castenada "Self-importance is another thing that must be dropped, just like personal history. As long as you feel that you are the most important thing in the world you cannot really appreciate the world around you. You are like a horse with blinders; all you see is yourself apart from everything else. It doesn't matter what you say to a plant. You can just as well make up words; what's important is the feeling of liking it, and treating it as an equal. So, all in all, the plants and ourselves are even. Neither we nor they are more or less important." To me, this says it all. I'm open for criticism.................... Mary Ofjord North Coast Services, LLC 218-387-1879 This message is from: Robin Churchill <rbc...@yahoo.com> I respectfully disagree. I think they are a lot smarter than we give them credit for and at times animals certainly know when they have done something they are not supposed to and it is not just by training or instinct Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
