So if someone (foolishly) bought the $1,000 flash remoting product
they would be out of luck in terms of supporting AVM3 until some 3rd
party makes a client side connector?

This is the first **HIGHLY** uncool thing I have heard about the Flex strategy.

Hank

On 10/19/05, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In Flex Builder 2, you can write AS only projects and connect to
> anything you want :)
>
> In the Flex framework itself, Flex framework 2.0 will not support older
> AMF.  However, you can also always write your own extensions to the
> framework and I am not aware of any reason you couldn't write a
> connector for the older AMF. (I am not the expert here.)
>
> -David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of hank williams
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:17 AM
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex
> > 2andFlash9:communicationor cacophony ?
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I just have one question. Will the flex 2 client side tools
> > allow me to connect to the old AMF servers. The docs *seem*
> > to say no. If this is not your intent and if this is wrong, I
> > apologize for any confusion I may have added to the situatuion.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Hank
> >
> > On 10/19/05, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is a misunderstanding.  Flex Enterprise Services
> > includes the new
> > > AMF gateway but I am sure the folks building OpenAMF or
> > RubyAMF or etc
> > > etc will at some point implement the new version.  We have nothing
> > > really against the open source projects.  We are adding a lot of
> > > functionality, performance, manageability to Flex
> > Enterprise Services
> > > and hope that will be valuable to people.  But we aren't trying to
> > > "kill" anything.  The Open Source community may well compete with
> > > Macromedia in some areas, but much more important we want a rich
> > > ecosystem with a lot of tools that solve a lot of different
> > needs from
> > > a lot of different people and companies to make the Flash Platform
> > > successful for more people. I hope instead of us focusing
> > on "killing"
> > > open source, or the open source community focusing on "killing"
> > > Macromedia, both can look at how we all can add value to to the
> > > community and leverage and extend each others work.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of hank
> > > > williams
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:07 AM
> > > > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex
> > > > 2andFlash9 :communicationor cacophony ?
> > > >
> > > > Well, paraphrasing from the manual.
> > > >
> > > > "AMF requires flex enterprise services".
> > > >
> > > > I have read the docs for this section pretty thoroughly for this
> > > > section and it definitely says this.
> > > >
> > > > Now, obviously, the old AMF client side code can be
> > ported to AS3,
> > > > but MM has no intent of making it easy or giving it away.
> > They make
> > > > absolutely clear in the doc that AMF requires flex enterprise
> > > > services.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Hank.
> > > >
> > > > On 10/19/05, Martin Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > (except for the fact that they seem to be trying to kill
> > > > > > open source remoting... damn cant they just compete on
> > > > > > features!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Hank, i really dont think this is true.
> > > > >
> > > > > if you check the new docs you'll see that AMF is still
> > in the new
> > > > > player, BUT there is a new version of AMF (AMF3) which contains
> > > > > improvements to the protocol.
> > > > >
> > > > > and like the old and new VM, the two AMF protocols can
> > > > exist happily
> > > > > side by side in the the new player.
> > > > >
> > > > > thats how it seems to me anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > martin
> > > > >
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