I've enjoyed myself too. I'm pleased to meet those passionate coders.

M.

On 4/21/06, Kevin Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> I added a test here:
> http://www.unfocus.com/projects/PatentMagic/sound.html
>
> The good news is that the sound doesn't play in if the object is hidden
> with display:block. So this at least appears to work. I will add some
> more thorough tests using other ActiveX types and some that ping the
> server to see what's really happening.
>
> It has been quite fun working with you guys on this. :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin N.
>
>
> elibol wrote:
> > I'm no expert on this, there are many others here that should know the
> > answer but my guess is that the object is downloaded but not rendered.
> You
> > can test this by calling a javascript function from within your flash
> movie.
> > try getURL('javascript:alert("movie running");'); from within your
> movie.
> >
> > I just tested this, http://anticipatechange.com/huseyin/patentMagic/
> >
> > I added a link that runs the disable css code and only when it is
> clicked
> > the movie object renders.
> >
> > I think there is a distinct delineation that must be made between
> whether
> > objects are downloaded and whether they are active/rendered/running.
> >
> > I think that if the objects are just downloaded, it makes no difference.
> My
> > only concern was hit counting scripts like hit box that would make calls
> > from within flash, but if the flash movie is never activated, it should
> not
> > double hits.
> >
> > Nice work Karina,
> >
> > M.
> >
> > On 4/21/06, Karina Steffens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Following my previous email, I thought of a better way to test
> >> display:none
> >> with flash.
> >>
> >> http://www.neo-archaic.net/display.htm has a page similar to the index
> >> page,
> >> but instead of the replaceFlash.js script, it has a link to a script
> >> called
> >> display.js with the following code:
> >>
> >> // JavaScript Document
> >> document.write ("<style id='hide'> object{display:none;} </style>")
> >>
> >> function show(){
> >>         document.getElementById("hide").disabled = true;
> >> }
> >> function hide(){
> >>         document.getElementById("hide").disabled = false;
> >> }
> >>
> >> Two links, show and hide, call the functions that control the display
> of a
> >> growing tree animation.
> >>
> >> What happens is that although the tree has had enough time to grow (you
> >> can
> >> wait all you want), it only starts growing after show() has been
> called,
> >> so
> >> that means it hasn't had the chance to load before, however long you
> wait
> >> before clicking.  When hide() is called, however, the animation stays
> >> loaded, and does not reload again.
> >>
> >> I think this proves that display:none prevents the flash from loading,
> >> unless there's a better explanation?
> >>
> >> Karina
> >>
> >> PS: The homepage www.neo-archaic.net has the display.js script enabled,
> so
> >> you can see it in action there.
> >>
> >>
>
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