Thanks for that Chris.
I am interested in seeing what GAIA is. I have heard of the DVD and I have an AS3 book I was going to send beno. I never even touched AS1. I just dove right into AS2 projects. That is how I got into AS2. I figure I can do the same with AS3. I guess what "frightens me" if you will about AS3 is the way it is structured and classes. I don't get them. But I haven't wrote any so
guess its time to get my hands dirty.

Best,

Karl


On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Chris Foster wrote:

FWIW, I made the transition to AS3 about a year ago (eLearning lags a
little behind the rest of the commercial world).

Here's what made my journey easy...

1) Use the GAIA framework as a starting point for all my projects.
2) Watched Colin Moock's 'Lost Actionscript Weekend' DVDs
3) Purchased 'Essential Actionscript 3'
4) No practice runs, just started building projects with the new tools

GAIA reduced the amount of 'housekeeping programming' significantly. No
need to write loaders, preloaders, asset management, plus excellent site
creation utility (scaffolding) and a solid user community.

The 'Lost Actionscript Weekend' videos mirror the "Essential
Actionscript 3' book structure. I found the book too heavy to sit
through, but the videos brought it to life for me (and made the book
more useful as a 'more information' tool).

Just biting the bullet and using these tools immediately on commercial
work was MUCH less headache than I'd anticipated. The problems I needed
to solve were about the work at hand, and not about chasing down
housekeeping bugs.

Next on the horizon is RobotLegs - it seems to be gaining traction, and
appears to play nice with GAIA.

Anyone else shared this path? Or have an alternative to offer?

C:




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I agree Taka. I need to kick it into hight gear is the consensus I am
hearing.
So I am on it. I don't think it will be as painful as I was thinking,
but we'll see what my learning curve is.
I must admit (at the risk of brown nosing) I have enjoyed reading all of
the posts on this list about AS3.
It has helped and I am not even doing AS3 yet. There are a lot of
professionals on this list.
People who really know their stuff. I feel lucky to have found it.
And Dave rocks..

My hat is off to all of you and my thanks for tolerating my dinosaur
ass... :))


Karl

On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Taka Kojima wrote:

Hey, if you're doing well with AS2, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's not going away for a long time.

Jason is right, and to his point:

The interactive industry is probably one of the the fastest changing
industries in the world. If you aren't willing to change (and I am not
saying you are not willing Karl), pick a different career.

As web developers, competence, being able to quickly learn and pick up
on new technologies, etc. go hand in hand with being good at what we do.

Sure
that could be said for any field of work, but I think it's extremely
relevant for this field.

AS2 will be completely dead and irrelevant in 3 years, in 10 years from
now Flash Player will probably not even support AS 2 content, if Flash
Player itself is still relevant then. Talking about the web's future 10
years from now is generally not a good idea, so I am not going to go
down that path.


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Merrill, Jason <
jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com> wrote:

Hey Karl - a few more things - check out the Migration Cheat Sheet for
AS3 here:

http://actionscriptcheatsheet.com/blog/quick-referencecheatsheet-
for-act
ionscript-20/
(Some of the other cheat sheets will be useful too.)

Read through that and you'll start to get comfortable with the
changes.
It can seem painful at first, but start slow - for example, create a
test project where you use AS3 to insert a Textfield on the screen and

set a value on it - then create a button that removes it or something.
Pretty soon you'll be off and running - and we'll be here to help.




Jason Merrill

Bank of  America  Global Learning
Learning & Performance Solutions

Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community  and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
(note: these are for Bank of America employees only)






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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What good is a Controller?

I tend to agree with Jason here, I am a freelancer and I have missed
out on a lot of jobs because I am not an AS3 developer.
Your probably right on the ease of use and the functionality of AS3
being better, otherwise what would be the use of creating AS3.

Again, thanks for all your comments.
I am going to try to migrate as soon as I can.
I know its just an amount of getting into it and getting it done.

Best Regards,

Karl DeSaulniers



On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote:

Hey, if you're doing well with AS2, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's not going away for a long time.

I disagree with that - what happens when you lose your job and have to

put your resume out there?  And IMO, it's nearly almost gone away
anyway.  Sure Flash player supports it still, but most developers have

moved on.  We recently hired a Flash developer as you know, and if the

candidates didn't have AS3 on their resume, they were immediately
discounted as a viable candidate.

COBOL used to be the dominant language for business apps. I haven't
programmed in COBOL for 25 years, but I still see COBOL gigs posted.

Because there were still lots of huge systems built in that language -

Flash apps are much more short lived than that, and while there may
still be a few AS2 jobs out there, they are increasingly becoming
fewer and fewer by the day. Besides, just because there are a small
number jobs out there for COBOL doesn't mean you should continue to
focus on that as a skill and bet your future career on it. I'd much
rather be fluent in Phyton, C# or Java than COBOL any day.

By the time you run out of AS2 gigs, you might be old enough to
retire,

I think it will happen much quicker than that - depending on how old
you are though I suppose.  I guess I don't see AS2 being as long lived

as you do.


Jason Merrill

Bank of  America  Global Learning
Learning & Performance Solutions

Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community  and visit our
Instructional Technology Design Blog
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