anyone using Zend?

http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/features

Kenneth, thanks for bringing Dreamweaver up.  I have been using it for
years and have been happy enough, but I'm checking out phpStorm right now
myself and so far, I would have to agree that it's an improvement.  I'm
always leery of the fan boy mentality - sometimes to my own detriment. So
often there is too much hype and too little substance.  New technologies
and tools seem to be consumed like crack.  However, sometimes there really
is a better tool.  Maybe phpStorm?  Maybe Zend?

Thanks all.

Kurt

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Kenneth Kawamoto <kennethkawam...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> For what I do phpStorm looks perfect - it supports JS/jQuery and SASS, and
> it has FTP/SVN client. I'll try it out. Thanks guys.
>
> Kenneth Kawamoto
> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2013, at 23:35, Rick Hassen wrote:
>
> > if you really like Webstorm, some understand it to be a stripped down
> version of phpStorm (both by JetBrains):
> > http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: kennethkawam...@gmail.com
> >> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools
> >> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 23:23:53 +0100
> >> CC:
> >>
> >> Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(
> >>
> >> Kenneth Kawamoto
> >> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:
> >>
> >>> There are many better alternatives for professional coding that
> >>> include automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS,
> >>> grunt, etc. I wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for
> >>> building web applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are
> >>> many better options out there.
> >>>
> >>> Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio
> >>> platform:
> >>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
> >>>
> >>> Second best (by the same company):
> >>> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
> >>>
> >>> For just text editor usage, for the most part:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.sublimetext.com/
> >>> http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
> >>>
> >>> I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to
> >>> a low quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.
> >>>
> >>> -j
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto <
> kennethkawam...@gmail.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard
> >>>> tool, but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:
> >>>> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
> >>>> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
> >>>> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I
> >>>> don't like to be laughed at. But I know none.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kenneth Kawamoto
> >>>> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
> >>>>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that
> >>>>> bundles a
> >>>>> bunch of good programming subreddits:
> >>>>>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using
> >>>>> Dreamweaver. There
> >>>>> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using
> >>>>> Aptana,
> >>>>> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am
> >>>>> moving
> >>>>> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely
> >>>>> streamlined and
> >>>>> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been
> >>>>> working on an
> >>>>> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson <
> al...@cyberiantiger.biz
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get
> >>>>>> JavaScript
> >>>>>> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> >>>>>> development time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> >>>>>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn
> >>>>>> world have
> >>>>>> moved to a Facebook group.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cordially,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kerry Thompson
> >>>>>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson" <br...@swfmagic.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/
> >>>>>>> JavaScript. Google
> >>>>>>> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> >>>>>> advantage
> >>>>>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good
> >>>>>>> quality lists
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the
> >>>>>>> supporting
> >>>>>>> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill
> >>>>>>> for a
> >>>>>>> developer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance guys!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bryan Thompson
> >>>>>>>
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