Sorry for a long reply, I just watched your video and - unless you
changed its' speed - it seems to me that your KB9012 operations are
going faster than expected, e.g. it reached 0x4*** address almost
instantly while in my CH341A case it was almost certainly slower. So
maybe you could experiment with spispeed parameter, like flashrom -p
internal:spispeed=frequency , please look it up online ( I can't at
the moment )


On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:01 PM Nyúlós Lónyál <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Same problem with 5cm long copper wires. Here is a video of what's happening: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbRGK9_gPg
>
> Nyúlós Lónyál <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. jan. 16., 
> Sze, 1:38):
>>
>> The wires are ~20-25cm made of aluminium, but I have some broken USB cables 
>> with copper wires. I can reduce the distance of laptop's keyboard connector 
>> and DIP8 socket to about 5cm wire length, will give it a try tomorrow. And 
>> something that I've noticed at verifying with flashrom, it always gives a 
>> random hex number after "failed byte count from 0x00000000-0x0001ffff". 
>> Maybe the "Timed out waiting for SPI not busy!" error is caused by the wires 
>> too. Thanks for the idea, I will reply back with results.
>>
>> Mike Banon <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. jan. 16., Sze, 
>> 1:09):
>>>
>>> Sorry if I've already asked this question, but how long are your
>>> wires? Ideally they should be about 10cm length and made of good
>>> copper. Although it could work even for 30cm poor aluminum wires,
>>> still when there are read/write errors - the first suggestion which
>>> comes to my mind is to shorten the wires. I understand that it could
>>> be difficult to use short wires at your flashing setup, but hope it is
>>> possible for you to try. And also I hope that you've ordered CH341A
>>> just in case our suggestions wouldn't work.
>>> > The laptop can't boot, doesn't even react to power button or recovery key 
>>> > combination, and no charging LED lighting up
>>> Everything from this list is expected if there is a corrupted KB9012
>>> firmware, because it is KB9012 which listens for your power button
>>> keypresses / controls the LEDs / etc
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:44 PM Nyúlós Lónyál <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Sorry for the confusion. :( I think you have misunderstood me.
>>> >
>>> > My laptop's motherboard is taken out of the laptop. I have another 
>>> > machine, a desktop PC which I've used for trying rayer_spi programmer. 
>>> > Now I connect the laptop's KB9012's debug pins into the desktop PC 
>>> > motherboard's DIP8 BIOS socket with wires, after it booted the linux 
>>> > distribution with flashrom installed and removing it's original BIOS SPI 
>>> > chip. The two machine's GND, DIP8 socket's GND, and KB9012's pin 42 are 
>>> > united.
>>> >
>>> > Like when recovering a regular motherboard BIOS with hot-swapping chips, 
>>> > just the only difference I connect the laptop's KBC instead of another 
>>> > BIOS chip: https://www.coreboot.org/FAQ#Developers
>>> >
>>> > I think the desktop motherboard's BIOS socket can be used as an SPI 
>>> > programmer this way, originally it has W25Q80BVAIG DIP8 chip which can be 
>>> > removed. That gave me these results, read and write errors which I sent 
>>> > before, but at least it can detect KB9012. I've tested with the original 
>>> > BIOS chip, flashrom can read, erase, and write it. The motherboard is an 
>>> > Asrock G41C-GS first generation, rev 1.0.2.
>>> >
>>> > The laptop can't boot, doesn't even react to power button or recovery key 
>>> > combination, and no charging LED lighting up, since it got bricked with a 
>>> > wrong BIOS update, this is why I want to reflash KB9012 with an external 
>>> > tool, like the desktop PC motherboard's DIP8 socket.
>>> >
>>> > Mike Banon <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. jan. 14., H, 
>>> > 22:43):
>>> >>
>>> >> That is because KB9012 is active after your laptop has booted and not
>>> >> in debug state where it is possible to reflash it without a problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> Have you double checked your laptop's datasheet to make sure your
>>> >> connection is correct, and also that your laptop's corner ground is
>>> >> really connected to its' ground? (what if not all its' copper circles
>>> >> are the grounds in your case)
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 5:01 PM Nyúlós Lónyál 
>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sorry for double mail. Erasing and writing fails too.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > xubuntu@xubuntu:~/flashrom$ sudo ./flashrom -p internal -c "KB9012 
>>> >> > (EDI)" -w /home/xubuntu/Desktop/EC-FD-Extract.bin
>>> >> > flashrom p1.0-141-g9cecc7e on Linux 4.15.0-20-generic (x86_64)
>>> >> > flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Using clock_gettime for delay loops (clk_id: 1, resolution: 1ns).
>>> >> > Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R".
>>> >> > Enabling flash write... OK.
>>> >> > edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> > edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> > Found ENE flash chip "KB9012 (EDI)" (128 kB, SPI) mapped at physical 
>>> >> > address 0x00000000fffe0000.
>>> >> > Reading old flash chip contents... done.
>>> >> > Erasing and writing flash chip... edi_chip_block_erase: Timed out 
>>> >> > waiting for SPI not busy!
>>> >> > Reading current flash chip contents... done. Looking for another erase 
>>> >> > function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > No usable erase functions left.
>>> >> > FAILED!
>>> >> > Uh oh. Erase/write failed. Checking if anything has changed.
>>> >> > Reading current flash chip contents... done.
>>> >> > Apparently at least some data has changed.
>>> >> > Your flash chip is in an unknown state.
>>> >> > Get help on IRC at chat.freenode.net (channel #flashrom) or
>>> >> > mail [email protected] with the subject "FAILED: <your board 
>>> >> > name>"!
>>> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > DO NOT REBOOT OR POWEROFF!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > xubuntu@xubuntu:~/flashrom$ sudo ./flashrom -p internal -c "KB9012 
>>> >> > (EDI)" -E
>>> >> > flashrom p1.0-141-g9cecc7e on Linux 4.15.0-20-generic (x86_64)
>>> >> > flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Using clock_gettime for delay loops (clk_id: 1, resolution: 1ns).
>>> >> > Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R".
>>> >> > Enabling flash write... OK.
>>> >> > edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> > edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> > Found ENE flash chip "KB9012 (EDI)" (128 kB, SPI) mapped at physical 
>>> >> > address 0x00000000fffe0000.
>>> >> > Erasing and writing flash chip... edi_chip_block_erase: Timed out 
>>> >> > waiting for SPI not busy!
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > Looking for another erase function.
>>> >> > No usable erase functions left.
>>> >> > FAILED!
>>> >> > Your flash chip is in an unknown state.
>>> >> > Get help on IRC at chat.freenode.net (channel #flashrom) or
>>> >> > mail [email protected] with the subject "FAILED: <your board 
>>> >> > name>"!
>>> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > DO NOT REBOOT OR POWEROFF!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Nyúlós Lónyál <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. 
>>> >> > jan. 11., P, 13:49):
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Finally managed it to detect KBC's internal flash using the 
>>> >> >> motherboard's BIOS socket with removing it's SPI chip after boot, and 
>>> >> >> connecting KB9012 in there. But the read always gives me different 
>>> >> >> files, so I can't backup the current content of KB9012.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> xubuntu@xubuntu:~/flashrom$ sudo ./flashrom -p internal -c "KB9012 
>>> >> >> (EDI)" -r /home/xubuntu/Desktop/ene1.bin
>>> >> >> flashrom p1.0-141-g9cecc7e on Linux 4.15.0-20-generic (x86_64)
>>> >> >> flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Using clock_gettime for delay loops (clk_id: 1, resolution: 1ns).
>>> >> >> Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R".
>>> >> >> Enabling flash write... OK.
>>> >> >> edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> >> edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> >> Found ENE flash chip "KB9012 (EDI)" (128 kB, SPI) mapped at physical 
>>> >> >> address 0x00000000fffe0000.
>>> >> >> Reading flash... done.
>>> >> >> xubuntu@xubuntu:~/flashrom$ sudo ./flashrom -p internal -c "KB9012 
>>> >> >> (EDI)" -v /home/xubuntu/Desktop/ene1.bin
>>> >> >> flashrom p1.0-141-g9cecc7e on Linux 4.15.0-20-generic (x86_64)
>>> >> >> flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Using clock_gettime for delay loops (clk_id: 1, resolution: 1ns).
>>> >> >> Found chipset "Intel ICH7/ICH7R".
>>> >> >> Enabling flash write... OK.
>>> >> >> edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> >> edi_read: Retrying read with greater buffer length!
>>> >> >> Found ENE flash chip "KB9012 (EDI)" (128 kB, SPI) mapped at physical 
>>> >> >> address 0x00000000fffe0000.
>>> >> >> Verifying flash... FAILED at 0x000034c2! Expected=0xff, Found=0x78, 
>>> >> >> failed byte count from 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: 0x6c52
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Nyúlós Lónyál <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. 
>>> >> >> jan. 10., Cs, 12:14):
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Yea, tried to discharge the motherboard, taken out CMOS battery too, 
>>> >> >>> it didn't help. I don't know if this is programmer related or not, I 
>>> >> >>> have reflashed 2 types of BIOS SPI chips with it, EN25QH16 and 
>>> >> >>> W25Q32BV. But these chips are maybe different from KB9012's debug 
>>> >> >>> interface. I can't get a CH341A for now, maybe some months later. It 
>>> >> >>> would be good to recover the laptop if it's possible with the tools 
>>> >> >>> I have currently, but not very urgent. Here is the programmer's 
>>> >> >>> config, if it helps: 
>>> >> >>> https://github.com/flashrom/flashrom/blob/master/rayer_spi.c
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Mike Banon <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. jan. 9., 
>>> >> >>> Sze, 18:59):
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Just to double-check: please discharge the motherboard completely by
>>> >> >>>> trying to turn it on while there is no power adapter connected, then
>>> >> >>>> unite three grounds (KB9012 / programmer / motherboard ) and only 
>>> >> >>>> then
>>> >> >>>> connect the board's power adapter . After doing all that, please 
>>> >> >>>> check
>>> >> >>>> if you could read it now. Also, what if your issues are programmer
>>> >> >>>> related? Is it possible for you to try another programmer, like 
>>> >> >>>> CH341A
>>> >> >>>> ? (because it costs like $2-$3 with free shipping from china, just
>>> >> >>>> prefer to get a green PCB version because there were some 3.3/5V
>>> >> >>>> issues with some black PCB CH341A , and blue PCB version costs the
>>> >> >>>> same low price while having fewer pins) Or maybe you could get it
>>> >> >>>> locally for a (hopefully) small premium if you're in hurry
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 3:20 PM Nyúlós Lónyál 
>>> >> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> > Hi Mike!
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> > I've followed the linked guide, it gave me these results. The 
>>> >> >>>> > grounds are united, still the same error happens. I have tried to 
>>> >> >>>> > GND pin 42 of KB9012 as mentioned in the guide, and tried to 
>>> >> >>>> > connect both pin 41 and 42 to GND, as in KBC's datasheet at EDI 
>>> >> >>>> > related part, still no success, flashrom doesn't detect it.
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> > Mike Banon <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. jan. 8., 
>>> >> >>>> > K, 16:08):
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Hi Nyulos,
>>> >> >>>> >> Have you tried following the KB9012 flashing instructions at
>>> >> >>>> >> DangerousPrototypes wiki?
>>> >> >>>> >> http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Flashing_KB9012_with_Bus_Pirate
>>> >> >>>> >> Although that is for Bus Pirate / CH341A programmers and 
>>> >> >>>> >> LA-A091P,
>>> >> >>>> >> should be similar for your Rayer programmer and LA-8241P 
>>> >> >>>> >> motherboard.
>>> >> >>>> >> Most importantly, before plugging the power adapter you should 
>>> >> >>>> >> unite
>>> >> >>>> >> three grounds:
>>> >> >>>> >> 1) GND of laptop's motherboard
>>> >> >>>> >> 2) GND of your programmer
>>> >> >>>> >> 3) GND of KB9012
>>> >> >>>> >> Best regards,
>>> >> >>>> >> Mike Banon
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:30 PM Nyúlós Lónyál 
>>> >> >>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > Hi!
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > I'm trying to flash an ENE KB9012QF A3 KBC on LA-8241P 
>>> >> >>>> >> > motherboard. The problem is flashrom can't detect the internal 
>>> >> >>>> >> > SPI of it, fails with error.
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > flashrom p1.0-141-g9cecc7e on Linux 4.15.0-20-generic (x86_64)
>>> >> >>>> >> > flashrom is free software, get the source code at 
>>> >> >>>> >> > https://flashrom.org
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > flashrom was built with libpci 3.5.2, GCC 7.3.0, little endian
>>> >> >>>> >> > Command line (5 args): ./flashrom -p rayer_spi -c KB9012 (EDI) 
>>> >> >>>> >> > -V
>>> >> >>>> >> > Using clock_gettime for delay loops (clk_id: 1, resolution: 
>>> >> >>>> >> > 1ns).
>>> >> >>>> >> > Initializing rayer_spi programmer
>>> >> >>>> >> > Using address 0x378 as I/O base for parallel port access.
>>> >> >>>> >> > Using RayeR SPIPGM pinout.
>>> >> >>>> >> > The following protocols are supported: SPI.
>>> >> >>>> >> > Probing for ENE KB9012 (EDI), 128 kB: edi_chip_probe: reading 
>>> >> >>>> >> > hwversion failed
>>> >> >>>> >> > No EEPROM/flash device found.
>>> >> >>>> >> > Note: flashrom can never write if the flash chip isn't found 
>>> >> >>>> >> > automatically.
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > How to get it working? Thanks a lot for help!
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