So, talk about Price is really worsth. But I belive that Macromedia obiviously has some bussiness strategics for Flex Price. Answer me anyone from the list, Who create a sotware that could not sell? Anyone is insane to do theses things. Well, Flex still a conception of future and talk about future is like programming a travel tripulated to Mart, how many years we hear that? how much money has spent?
Really insane think that we couldn't buy the Flex server, now is a privilege for all here that has a developer version, need to be massive evangelized and than much more feedback will have from the Nav MM. So, Still now is obviuslly that Flex server sucks to play any commercial application but maybe, always based in maybe we can belive and hope that will have a low cost licensene like Robert Stuttaford said and propouse. Who's remember when the CF has arrived on the market? I was just a teenager 14 years but saw many developer talking about prices and extencive price. It's like here in Brazil, who pay frist to the news releases of cellphones, pays high prices, but I wait 1 year and than the same model is for half price hehe. That's all think like that. So, let's begining a new way to theses problems, called "price license", belives of not will return the value we pay. On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:14:57 +1000, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That all being said, does anyone else find it super strange that > justification for enterprise level software is it must be expensive? > *Kind of motivates you to create an intranet based app to do something > enterprise wise hehe* > > Me personally, I loathe FLEX price tag and would love to see it > available to all folks who can afford CFMX for example. CFMX 7 hinted > at its worth and as per expectations a lot of people went crazy over > simple old CFFORM.FLASH - but - thats me as a personal FLEX devotee. > Me as a developer for my work, why i just adore the product and price > is a moot selling principal. > > Still, Price aside it comes down to UI. I could write champagne > server-side code in whatever technology, but if the blunts above see > the process as cumbersome or not really useable then they tend to get > a bit annoying "can we have a link here", "can we move this over here" > etc... (see dilbert comics) > > Web-Based applications tend to inherit all the expectations of a > thickware client, and when they don't perform we are generally > expected to hack away until we get close enough. > > Calculate that time devoted to putting that tabbed interface together > or what not and 15k per CPU in all honesty, heartache aside... not too > bad to swallow. > > I don't know how this price hike will affect the potential folk who > are buying it but i do know this, buy some copies now, wait 5 months > and sell them on eBay for a 1k profit margin heehehehe... > > Sadly though I wonder if some companies who were on the brink of > purchase, suddenly push away from the table due to the increase in > price? At the very least for companies that want to commit but can't > until XYZ reason which leaves them on a purchase date post-April, > surely MM can be kind enough to reserve them a bid price at current > pricing, especially if its a handsoff easy sale (ie the developers are > doing the selling and no help form MM is required). > > On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:42:51 +0200, Robert Stuttaford > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And all of this back-n-forth on a rumour, and one regarding something > > happening on April the FIRST! > > > > One thing to remember: MM made Flex for the big Enterprise-level companies. > > Granted, it's useful to everyone, not just these companies. I guess MM won't > > mind being blamed for making such awesome software and it being wanted by > > everyone regardless of the size of their pocket. But, it is business, and MM > > did decide that this was at the 'big' end of their business. > > > > From what I understand of such things (not much), $12k for 2 procs is dirt > > cheap compared to other ent servers... and $20k for 1 proc is still cheaper. > > I might be wrong :) I'm quite sure that MM won't come knocking on your door > > demanding another 28k if you have paid for the license already. Don't forget > > that there are non-com licenses for the small web-shop type companies that > > make it their business to build bespoke RIAs (I assume). > > > > I must admit, for me, a switch to Lazlo is scary. You might not have > > purchased your Flex license yet, but how much money have you already spent > > in developer time on Flex? Are you willing to write that off and start > > again? > > > > Remember, Flex servers CAN serve multiple applications. If you're concerned > > about the price, think longer term, and write more useful software using > > Flex so it earns it's keep and your ROI goes up! I'm sure that you all have > > one or two completely unexplored project ideas, that if given the time, > > would be of potentially massive benefit to your company or clients. > > > > Personally, I won't like seeing a split in Flex to > > Flex-the-one-you-know-that-costs-a lot and > > Flex-lite-oh-god-what-have-they-taken-out-how-stupid-is-flex-without-charts/ > > remoting/layout management-i-cant-cope. Look at Flash and Flash Pro. Anyone > > out there with a copy of Flash that isn't Flash Pro? ;) > > > > It's tough, wanting something you can't afford. But yet, we cope... who > > knows, maybe Flex 2.0 will be worth $40k a processor and we just don't know > > it yet. > > > > By the way, has anyone considered the possibilities of XAMLon Flash Ed along > > with Darron Schall's Local Connection find? No more fscommand! No more xml > > sockets! No more plumbing! I for one sincerely hope more comes of Darron's > > discovery. > > > > My 2c. I could be totally off, but worth thinking about nonetheless. > > > > Robert > > Freelance developer > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- Igor Costa www.igorcosta.com www.macromedia.com/go/team Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
