On 5/12/05, Hans Omli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It depends what you're trying to accomplish and what metric you use to > measure performance. The price-to-performance ratio, however, is best with > Tomcat. ;-)
Yeah, well i had thought we owned CF7 Enterprise but it was standard (oh well, next budget allocation i'll push for an upgrade) so i had to kind of pray Tomcat will hold up. My bad, should of did some triple checking before filling out the final FLEX PO. It just annoyed me is all that i had to then walk up to my supervisor and go "err umm.. i need to buy either JRUN4 or CF Enterprise in order to get our 15k FLEX server to run... that or if you could persuade IT to install tomcat on the server aswell..*gulp*..." Its all installed and its ok I guess. > On a more serious note, my take on why Flex doesn't include a JRun license > is that it is being targeted toward Enterprises who are very likely to > already be running WebSphere, WebLogic, Oracle, or Tomcat in their > environment. On the other hand, most CF shops don't already have a Java > application server deployed in there environment so a JRun license is a > necessity. That's fine, I'm not asking that it HAS to be JRUN4, but simply "oh we threw this in for free in case you needed it.." as a secondary option. Nice sweetner for the deal in many ways. Anyway, hopefully FLEX 2.0 will maybe keep that in mind. > > -----Original Message----- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Scott Barnes > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:11 PM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] FLEX and CF7.. > > Performance wise, which is betterer? > > JBOSS > Tomcat > JRUN4 > > :) > > Or is it like comparing a dirtbike against a roadbike? :) > > On 5/12/05, Cliff Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's exactly the point I was making :) Flex is NOT cheap... > > significantly more expensive that CF7 Enterprise... so I can't > > understand why Macromedia wouldn't throw in JRun4 with Flex if they're > > going to throw it in for CF7 ENT. FYI, JBoss also seems to work > > nicely for CFMX7 and Flex 1.5 if you're looking for a "free" J2EE > > server to run CF and Flex. :) > > > > -Cliff > > > > > > On 5/12/05, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For now we are going to use TomCat to tide us over until we figure > > > things out... you'd think for the bucks we paid, JRUN full license > > > would of been thrown in ;) hehe. > > > > > > > > > On 5/12/05, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Er, I don't think the JRun license is a full license with Flex, > > > > it's just a trial license. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott, I'd just talk to your sales rep and see what makes sense > > > > for your needs. I have no idea how the pricing works on JRun vs. CF > Enterprise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:32 PM > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] FLEX and CF7.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well the actual legal (Commercial) FLEX license is being sent > > > > (currently FEDEX) but i have the serial, and simply used the > > > > downloadable version to install. > > > > > > > > that being said, once i provide the serial it doesn't ask how i > > > > want it installed, but simply installs the WAR? > > > > > > > > am i missing something from this equation? > > > > > > > > On 5/12/05, Cliff Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If you purchase a Flex license it comes with a full license of > JRun. > > > > > When you run the Flex installer you can either have it create a > > > > .war > file to deploy to an existing J2EE server, or choose to > > > > install JRun4 > on your server and then put Flex on top of it. > > > > The same is true of > ColdFusion MX7: if you spring for an > > > > Enterprise license you can > install CF with a full version of > > > > JRun4, or as a .war to deploy to any > other J2EE server. You > > > > could also install CFMX7 in Standalone mode, > but IMHO this > > > > would be waste since you'd be sacrificing the full J2EE > > > > > capability (Servlets, JSPs, EJBs, etc) as well as some other > > > > features > in CFMX7 Enterprise Edition. If you want to deploy > > > > CFMX7 and Flex on > top of the same J2EE server (be it the "free" > > > > JRun you get with the > CF/Flex licenses or any other J2EE server) > you're still going to need > the CFMX7 Enterprise edition. > > > > > > > > > > If you are looking for the most cost-effective route, you can > > > > do the > > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > (1) Buy a Flex license and install it on a box with the full > > > > version > > > > > > > > > of JRun that's included, > > > > > (2) Buy a CFMX7 Standard license and install it on a different > > > > box in > Standalone mode > > You might also be able to run them > > > > side by side on the same box, but > usually I think MM will > > > > discourage that behavior since having two JRun > servers on the > > > > same box will probably cause issues. Port conflicts > > > > > immediately jump to mind since different parts of the J2EE > > > > machinery > will probably try to bind to the same default ports, > > > > although you > could probaby adjust the .xml config files to > > > > resolve this. However > you're also going to add a lot more > > > > overhead to your hardware by > running two separate J2EE servers > > > > on the same box. If your company is > willing to spring for the > > > > hefty price tag of Flex, is the difference > between CFMX7 Standard > and Enterprise really that significant? > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > > Cliff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/11/05, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > In order to install FLEX you need an existing Java > > > > Application Server, > > now we own CF7 Standard not Enterprise. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Would it be more cost effective to buy JRUN 4 (standalone) > > > > and > > deploy CF7/FLEX war files to JRUN4 > > > > 2) Buy / > > > > Updared CF7 Standard to Enterpise and deploy FLEX via this route. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not really up to speed on whats what in terms of Java > > > > Application > > Server(s) but need to have a setup where i can > > > > hopefully have FLEX/CF > > running under the one port (was going > > > > to use a CFIMPORT capability but > > CF7 Standard has a software > license restriction on JSP apparently). > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Scott Barnes > > > > > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > > > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > > > > > Yahoo! > > > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Scott Barnes > > > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Scott Barnes > > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > Yahoo! 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