RE: [flexcoders]
Questions (and frustrations)

Mon, 30 May 2005 11:13:26 -0700

Hi Mike,
 
I use the FORM and FORMITEM tags whenever I want to use the automatic layout they provide. I'd say I use them about 75% of the time. The rest of the time, I just place a component(s) within the container that is appropriate.
 
I guess the moral of the story is, doesn't matter what containers your components are laid out in, you can always apply the validators and then take the data and do as you please.
 
Its not like HTML, where you have to use the FORM tag. HTML, remember that?
 
Enjoy!
 
Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas
RIA Developer
Optimal Payments Inc.
 

From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:51 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] <Form> Questions (and frustrations)

Okay,
 
So with that said, why are the <Form> and <FormItem> tags mentioned so often in every example I see?
 
Or is this just another tool that the developer can select from, in order to make the workflow easier?  But at the same time, it's not absolutely necessary that the developer go that exact route, whenever creating Forms in which it's imperative that the controls all line up perfectly...
 
I would be grateful for as many people as possible to comment on this topic, as I would feel much better as I forge ahead with my application, knowing that I am doing my coding in an acceptable manner.
 
Thanks again everybody,
 
Mike

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitrios Gianninas
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:23 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] <Form> Questions (and frustrations)

That is correct, you do not need to have your components contained within a FORM. Validation will work regardless if component in contained with a FORM or not, same goes for sending the data to a service.
 
Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas
RIA Developer
Optimal Payments Inc.
 

From: Abdul Qabiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:13 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] <Form> Questions (and frustrations)

Hi Mike,

I am not sure, but using Form tag is not necessary. I think, it is more
for form-like-lay outing purpose. Validation should also work on
controls outside of form.

May be someone else confirm it...

-abdul

-----Original Message-----
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 10:24 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] <Form> Questions (and frustrations)

Hello All,

MUST I use the Form tags, if I have Text Fields (or any controls
really...) that will eventually be submitted to a WebService or
RemoteObject later on?

I guess what I am asking is: Is the developer forced to use Forms,
whenever collecting data for the purpose of sending and/or receiving
(with potential validation before submission)?  Is using the Form tags,
just easier in the long haul, when it comes to validation, etc?

The reason I ask, is that I find the <Form> tags (which itself IS a
container object) VERY prohibitive when it comes to laying out my
controls.  ALL the examples I've seen thus far, are single column in
nature - the top-down approach to laying out the controls.  Well, that
does not work for me - I need to also put fields across too (sometimes
2, 3 or more columns) - and the default <Form> container really isn't
setup for that type of thing.

I've tried creating a Form container, and then inside THAT putting a
HBox container, which of course allows me to put controls across, but
how do I handle subsequent Rows below the previous, when the need arises
for me having to properly line up controls from top to bottom?

In this particular case, I think it would be easier for me, to use
Absolute Positioning - using the Canvas container.

If I use this type of method for laying out my forms, am I screwing
myself later on, by not using the <Form> and <FormItem> tags when
sending data to the server?  Or just as important, performing Form
Validation before sending the data to the server?

Or, maybe I am missing something, and there IS a way to properly line up
my Controls from Top to Bottom AND from Left to Right, with having
multiple Fields going across the Form horizontally as well...

Could you all shed some light on this topic?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Mike




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