Okay, first off I choose what gets the job done. that said -- you should know I am a huge fan of FLEX, especially Flex 3 and AS 3.0 My choice is ColdFusion and Flex Combination. My choice.... But given what Guy said, I can certainly see his point, smokey!
Scott, you have not much claim in the RIA world with SilverLight compared to Flex 3, I have seen what it can do and cannot do. Now give if Microsoft stays with it, then eventually you can say some good stuff, maybe. I would try my best to stay in the Flex world P.S Scott, I am pretty sure that was a statement that guy made....lol Link Scott Barnes wrote: > > Is this a question or statement? :) > > All the best. > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Oh and the way MS has stiffed SVG as a standard by refusing to support >> it in IE definitely pushes them into the category of evil. They even >> "embraced and extended" the acronym when they named their competing >> product >> SilVerliGht. >> I choose Flex because I don't want to live in a world dominated by MS >> technology, given their prior behaviour towards competitors and >> standards. >> It's the same reason I encourage the use of open source software whenever >> I >> can. YMMV, but I'd urge all developers to consider the ethics behind the >> tech they choose to support. >> >> >> On 15/08/2008, at 2:56 PM, Scott Barnes wrote: >> >> >> >> - Cross Platform >> - Silverlight is x-platform. >> - Much more traction and an established user base. >> - Depends on which brochure you want to read (Adobe/Microsoft), but >> we've got approx 20,000 folks registered on Silverlight.NET forums >> and >> there's approx 9,000+ here on this forum. Furthermore, Adobe's >> entire >> development population is measured in thousands, where as .NET >> folks are >> measured in millions. Given the industry is in what we'd call an >> upgrade >> phase, it will be interesting to see how this pans out in the near >> future >> and how the desktop vs web converge. We've not tapped into how many >> folks >> are using the Dynamic Language Runtime and given projects like the >> PHP >> community, may also swell the numbers further etc..( >> http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/01/Silverlight-PHP) we have more >> plans to grow Silverlight beyond the .NET way of life, its about >> standards >> and open source with us as well :) but hey, which brochure you want >> to >> believe in is up to you.. no harm no foul. >> - Standard (client-side) libraries are allegedly a lot broader in Flex >> than Silverlight. >> - Again, depends on who's brochure you want to believe. We've got >> more third party vendors producing Silverlight/WPF related controls >> today, >> and Codeplex.com has 98 Silverlight specific projects available >> that we know >> of. WPF and Silverlight have the ability share and re-use the same >> code base >> depending on specific features and so, this is kind of an open >> debate with >> an unlikely definitive outcome in terms of a definition of win. >> - Not evil. >> - Microsoft isn't evil, its just me :) .. Evil is a typical term >> that at times is associated with the brand, but given half the >> people I work >> with came from Apple/Adobe/Macromedia/IBM/Sun/Google? does that >> make them >> evil as well in that when they handed in their identity badges at >> companies >> like Macromedia/Adobe did they pass through some gate which sprayed >> them >> with Evil? .. >> - Price. >> - Silverlight is Free as in beer, you can code in Visual Studio >> Express for free today and produce Silverlight. We're also seeing >> folks >> spin-up Eclipse like editors (eg: >> >> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/09/03/lunar-eclipse-open-source-silverlight-design-tool-for-linux) >> for Silverlight and there are more and more being developed today >> (in fact >> I'm meeting with someone on Monday about his editor + Silverlight >> and other >> languages) >> >> Adobe AIR's actual use in the mainstream is open for debate, but we >> believe >> with Silverlight and WPF we've got all areas covered. We're also ensuring >> Silverlight runtime works on the mobile in the future and at MIX we >> joined >> forces with Nokia to make this a reality. The same runtime will work on >> the >> desktop and device, and this means there will not be a "Silverlight lite" >> vs >> "Silverlight" (as we've heard from customers around the problems of >> having >> Flash lite vs Flash). >> >> HTH. >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Well the benefits (assuming silverlight as the other option) become: >>> >>> * Cross platform >>> * Much more traction and an established user base >>> * Standard (client-side) libraries are allegedly a lot broader in Flex >>> than Silverlight. Just repeating what I've heard here though, I don't >>> know >>> for sure. >>> * Not evil - IMHO of course, but this _is_ a Flex list ;-) >>> * Don't quote me on this, but probably substantially cheaper (for a >>> commercial license) unless you already have VS >>> >>> I don't know what capabilities the Silverlight equivalent of AIR has. >>> But >>> AIR apps will run on Mac Win and Linux, whereas Silverlight is Mac / Win >>> (client plugin) only, development is Win only. Also the AIR equivalent >>> may >>> even be windows-clients only. Personally I avoid anything that means I'm >>> stuck with any one platform. I like choice, what if the next Windows / >>> OS X >>> is awful? >>> >>> -Josh >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, itdanny2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> But if the only to do the sync is to >>>> install a program in desktop. Then, >>>> any benefit of AIR is better than >>>> Microsoft'stuf ? Sorry, it is a management >>>> question so that we can sell our management >>>> while our other development is on MS platform. >>>> Inshort, any good point in AIR which is better ? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Josh McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Anything that lives in a browser is not going to be able to have a >>>> local >>>> > database, going to microsoft won't change that. >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM, itdanny2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > I need to build a web-based Application which >>>> > > has data in Client & Server, sync is required. >>>> > > >>>> > > AIR >>>> > > --- >>>> > > Support SQLite in client side - It's ok but we >>>> > > want web-based so that installation is not >>>> > > required. Go to anywhere, just a click to see >>>> > > data. >>>> > > >>>> > > FLEX >>>> > > ---- >>>> > > It can't have database operation such as SQLite >>>> > > in client. I don't think cookie is a solution due >>>> > > to large volume of data. >>>> > > >>>> > > I need to defence and stay in Flex faction in >>>> > > my company. Any good point(s) that make me won't >>>> > > in camp of VS.Net ? >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ------------------------------------ >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > Flexcoders Mailing List >>>> > > FAQ: >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt >>>> > > Search Archives: >>>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! >>>> Groups >>>> > > Links >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for >>>> thee." >>>> > >>>> > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald >>>> > :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Flexcoders Mailing List >>>> FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt >>>> Search Archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups >>>> Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for >>> thee." >>> >>> :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald >>> :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Scott Barnes >> Rich Client Platform Manager >> Microsoft. >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog >> >> >> > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Scott Barnes > Rich Client Platform Manager > Microsoft. > > http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Web-based-Sync-data---Flex-Air---VS.NET-tp18644016p18994639.html Sent from the FlexCoders mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
