Dave:

First, thanks for your input.

The site will be public and I do not know how many users will be
accessing at this time.

I realize there is no specific "user number", but I was trying to
get a round number, if that's possible.

>From a due deligence standpoint, how do you determine the server
needs, if you can not determine the load each server can handle.

Let's take the Flexstore example as a sample application.  Can
we determine using this scenario how many users?  Roughly?

Is it a general server issue or a Flex issue, regarding load
performance?

Thanks again,

Jack

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dave Carabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I'll take a stab at a high level.
> 
> Comments inline below....
> 
> On 7/19/05, jwc_wensan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To All:
> > 
> > I have asked MM and have not gotten what I see as a reasonable
> > answer.  Their own website says that the "typical" application
> > would need "6-8 licenses".
> > 
> > Let's take this example server:
> > 
> >     Dell Server @ 3.8 GHz with 1 GB RAM
> >     JRUN4
> >     Win 2000 Server
> >     1 Flex license
> >     MySQL database on same server
> > 
> > Assume sufficient internet bandwidth.
> > 
> > Using RemoteObjects for data access.
> > 
> > Do I need any other software?
> 
> Well, you have Flex for your presentation tier and MySQL as your
> database tier, but you need a middleware tier (ColdFusion, 
Java, .NET,
> etc.) to communicate between the two. You don't write queries and
> place them in your ActionScript/MXML code.
> 
> 
> > With the above scenario how many simultaneous users can 
adequately
> > access the server before I would need a second server?  Or is it
> > better to ask how many per hour?
> 
> It's an annoying answer, but: It Depends. Seriously. How many users
> will be accessing the application? What are they going to be 
doing? Is
> it a public or internal site? There are so many project-specific
> questions that are unique to your environment, that I defy anybody
> external to your company and not familiar with what you're doing to
> accurately give you performance statistics. And yes, that even goes
> for Macromedia's own "6-8 licenses" remark.
> 
> > 
> > Would going to 2 GB RAM make any difference?
> 
> If you insist on keeping the database on the same box as your
> Flex/J2EE server, then absolutely, I would recommend going to 2 GB
> RAM. I would not deploy a production-level Flex application with
> anything less than 1 GB or RAM for the Flex instance itself. Again,
> see above where I say that it depends on your requirements, but 
this
> has been my experience.
> 
> > 
> > If I moved MySQL to another server, would that cause any major
> > issues?
> 
> It shouldn't, and it's something I would recommend if you have the
> infrastructure to accomodate the separation. Physical separation of
> tiers is a good thing, as it can help eliminate critical points of
> failure if a server dies.
> 
> > Also, I read somewhere that RemoteObjects is faster.  Is it a
> > signficant increase?
> 
> I would read this blog entry and the Flex Server Performance 
article
> it references, as there are some benefits to using ROs, but also 
some
> gotchas:
> 
> http://tomlink.net/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=DE53AA15-7E97-
A3B0-E08327BED0699516
> 
> Regards,
> Dave.




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