$45 AUD an hour is the typical rate at this end, so i guess i may seem slave labor to the US counterparts? heh.
Plus, i prefer to quote on projects instead of hourly rates, as i feel at times hourly rates tend to breed distrust or associates a negative to the deal (ie if you just paid a contracter 30hrs worth of work, can you honestly say that you would go "yeah, i know he worked the full 30hrs..or is it more like, hmm...he probably only worked 20 put is tacking on an extra 10 to make the wallet fatter" I've been on both ends (employer and employee) and i've seen how it can go pairshape easily enough. Plus project quoting also gives the client a end figure to work with. On 7/21/05, Clint Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > might be comparing apples to oranges there... > > Typical flex project = 6 months > > Typical car repair = 6 hours > > > > > On 7/20/05, Rob Rusher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What?! Are you guys crazy? My mechanic charges me more than that. > > > > Consultancies are going to charge between $100 (newbie) and $250 (guru) an > > hour for a Flex developer. Sure, as an independent, you will charge less > but > > not that much less. > > > > Maybe I'm spoiled, but Jesse you're worth way more my friend. > > > > Regards, > > Rob Rusher > > > > RIA Consultant > > Macromedia Certified Flex Instructor > > e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] c:303.885.7044 im:robrusher > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of JesterXL > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:04 AM > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] How much do you charge for Flex development? > > > > Busy/Bad Mood = $60/hour > > I like you/Not Busy/Good Mood = $30/hour > > > > As far as salary, I'd think because of your server background, 70-90 is > fair > > > > & market rate (per various job sites & the USA government department of > > commerce salary reports) depending on company size, but depends on the > > direction they are going with Flex. > > > > For example, the reason I'm asked to do contract Flex by clients (beyond > the > > > > fact there aren't many Flex contractors) is because I know how to get the > > GUI to work. The reverse holds true in having a good server-side > developer > > on the team doing Flex because he/she knows the impact on the backend and > > can offer valuable insight into making the application work better, > leaving > > the GUI/wireframe/frontend visual details up to someone like me. > > > > ...of course, the same logic applies to my Flash projects, hehe. > > Flex/Flash, here's my typical scenario: > > > > "Jesse, can you do Flex contract?" > > > > "No, but these people might have time." :: forwards list of contractors :: > > > > *alternate universe where Jesse has time for more than 1 contract job a > > year* > > > > "Sure, but I'm really busy right now, what are the details of the > project?" > > > > :: gets details / specs / whatever wireframes are available, if any :: > > > > "Ok, swag time estimate is X hours @ 60 an hour, my rate, thus that'll > cost > > you $XX for my services." > > > > "Geez, we don't have the budget for that...." > > > > :: negotiations :: > > > > "Ok, I've adjusted the scope of what I can do, rate, and hours based on > our > > discussions. We agree to $XX for the project since that fits nicely in > your > > > > budget. Let's knock this shiz out of the park!" > > > > So, I say a rate, but rarely ever get it because of budgetting, which is > > understandable and I'll adjust what I can do and what I charge > accordingly, > > if at all possible. Now, as far as salary, I'd treat it similiarly to any > > New Media + Front-end JSP Development type job, and you'd have an accurate > > assessment of salary range. Naturally, all the other rules of location, > > budget, company size, time, etc. all factor in which is beyond the scope > of > > this email; there are plenty of resources online both professional, > > independent, and governement which can help you make a more educated > > inference based on the numbers I gave above. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Devin Holloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:59 AM > > Subject: [flexcoders] How much do you charge for Flex development? > > > > > > > > As a CF developer, I've been recently been putting more serious > > thought into becoming a Flex developer. It would be a long time > > before the company I work for could move into this direction, if > > ever. So I'd have to become a contractor or find a Flex position at > > another company. > > > > But I'm curious as to how much a Flex developer should be making. I > > realize much of that depends on your skillset, but does their exist > > any averages? or possibly some minimums and maximums? > > > > Let's pretend I make around $75K/yr as a full time CF developer. I'm > > by no means a Flex guru, with less then a month of learning it. I > > would also be seeking a CF position with an emphasis on Flex > > development, for, it seems as though I'd have to take a good sized > > pay cut if I were to become purely a Flex developer with what little > > experience I have... and therefore would need to offer my CFML > > skillset as well, to counter the pay cut. Personaly, getting a CF > > position with a Flex emphasis and making approximately the same > > amount of money would seem like a bargain to me. But would I be short- > > changing myself? Would a lack of Flex developers allow a person to be > > less competitive and ask for more? > > > > And what would contractor generally charge? 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