We're hosting the RSLs starting with Flex 4, you'll see them hosted in the public beta.
When we feel comfortable with the RSL penetration stats as far as being consistent and accurate and explainable we'll begin publishing them. Matt On 4/21/09 11:01 PM, "Steve Mathews" <happy...@gmail.com> wrote: No offence was intended, I was trying to state that as a selling point. The number of users who already have the SWZs should be icing, the real substance should be the benifit to every user visiting your site/app. Obviously if you only expect users to visit once or twice the benifit doesn't work out. The problem with Adobe including the files with the first install is that there are new files for each update of the Flex Framework. I am currently on my third set of SWZs in my production environment. I would like to see Adobe host the files as an added benifit to using them. I would also be interested in seeing some stats on the number of installed players that have one or more SWZs cached as it would be additional info to help sell the idea to clients. Steve On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guy Morton <g...@alchemy.com.au> wrote: Yes, I know how it works...my point is that it's hard to sell to my current clients if for most it's going to translate into a bigger download for first time users. This is why stats as to how many users are likely to already have the different versions of the RSLs would be handy. I realise this is probably strategically sensitive for Adobe as they want to encourage use of RSLs as it improves the Flex download size story longer term. Someone made the suggestion somewhere that when users upgrade or install the player, Adobe ought to download and install all the current RSLs as well. That seems a very sensible idea to me. Even if they were a separate download available at the time (or available as a "Flash player professional" version) it would be better than forcing developers distributing apps to do it. We have app size as an imperative that we have to work with. Guy On 22/04/2009, at 4:19 AM, Steve Mathews wrote: It would only be bigger the first download (assuming the user has 9.0.115.0 or later). After that it would be smaller each time. Steve On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Guy Morton <g...@alchemy.com.au> wrote: Well...yes, it's great if I do it...for the community n'all...but my users *are* sensitive to the download size. If it were the same size either way, of course I would do it (as would everyone) but the fact that it's BIGGER as RSLs means I bet LOTS of developers DON'T do it, hence my question... Guy On 21/04/2009, at 6:19 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009, g...@alchemy.com.au wrote: > Maybe it's worth doing if 50%+ of users will get the benefit, but if > only 10% will benefit it seems unlikely to be a way to increase the > general happiness. I think you are looking at it wrong. Assuming 200k is nothing on a modern connection - I don't know anything about your users of course :-) With RSL you either load quicker (win) or have to download app+RSL (same as non-RSL), plus you have the benefit of making your (and others !) future RSL deployments more likely to be win. -- Helping to synergistically streamline proactive cross-platform seamless ubiquitous interfaces as part of the IT team of the year, '09 and '08 Tom Chiverton Developer Tel: +44 0161 618 5032 Fax: +44 0161 618 5099 tom.chiver...@halliwells.com 3 Hardman Square, Manchester, M3 3EB www.Halliwells.com <http://www.halliwells.com/> **************************************************** This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word ?partner? to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.Halliwells.com <http://www.halliwells.com/> .
