GeorgeB wrote: > Hi all. hi Tom, hi Nick, hi Wally > > I have to thank you for your understanding! The common denominator of all > answers on why the new version of Flex Builder 3 should be renamed to Flash > Builder 4 is "WTF No big deal". Or better, as Tom put it: "Just marketing > bollocks!!" LOL > It may just be a name, but as your post shows people are confused by these changes and it is worse for people who don't understand what Flex is. A ton of people still associate flash with childish eye candy. > Then I can call myself anything I like, as long as I keep exercising > succesfully my discipline writting code in a framework used to be called Flex > Builder (plug-in IDE to Eclipse) and now called Flash Builder IDE. What's > bugging me is that all my current work done for the last 2 years, has to be > referencing as been done in a non-existing (now obsolete?) framework, that as > time goes will have its trade name placed next to T-Rex. As I understand it, > this marketing decision is devaluating my investment in a development > platform. (Not my first time unfortunatelly) > Nobody has said the Flex framework is going anywhere. > Although not a stickler, I believe marketeers shouldn't be creating a mess > out of logic. Like presenting us a product named Flash Builder4 with no > previous Flash Builder3. If they think Flash Builder IS the name, why don't > they call this "new" product just "Flash Builder v1"? Or, are they afraid > this would confuse the market? > Adobe is getting into a mess with product names. > BTW should this "Flexcoders" group be renamed to "Flashcoders"? Or keep it > going as is? (Resembling groups of practicioners in now extinct obscure arts, > black magic etc? if you excuse me the pun..) > It's still coding using MXML and the Flex class framework, so I don't see that the name should change. I didn't see that the tool name should have changed either - for the same reason.
Paul > Thanks all for the very thoughtful replies > George > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Wally Kolcz <wko...@...> wrote: > >> 1.) Keeping all their items more focused on the 'Flash Platform'. >> 2.) Call yourself a 'Flash Developer specializing in the Flex >> Framework'. Flex is not a language, its a Framework. It runs your >> application on a 2 frame time line. Frame 1 is the application loader, >> Frame 2 is your application. MXML gets compiled into ActionScript. All >> tags are easy representations of true AS classes. It is created for >> speed. Kinda like how ColdFusion is compiled into Java. You can create >> full working Flex apps without any MXML. I guess if you are worried >> about being confused with an animator call yourself a 'ActionScript >> Developer specializing in the Flex Framework' >> 5.) Doubt it too. They seem just to be aligning all the products related >> to Flash with Flash (Flash Builder, Flash Professional, Flash Catalyst) >> 6.) Blaze will probably remain around as a lesser version of LCDS. You >> lose some really cool features, but don't pay the monster price tag. I >> think Adobe knows that some of the success of Flash/Flex is that >> streaming data interaction and to only offer a pay version (LCDS) would >> stunt the growth of the community. Not all independant developer, web >> hosts, or small-mid companies can afford the full LCDS price tag. >> >> On 2/2/2010 4:42 AM, GeorgeB wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a fully occupied Flex v3 developer, and don't have spare time to >>> switch to Flex v4 before the projects I work on are over and done. >>> While on the side subject that Gordon Smith (post 152124) raised, may >>> I ask for reasonable answers? (since what I read worry me a lot about >>> the future of my projects support from Adobe): >>> >>> 1. What was the meaning of Adobe changing the name from Flex Builder >>> (v3) to Flash Builder, while keeping the upgrade path from v3 to v4? >>> 2. I used to call myself a Flex developer, i.e MXML plus AS3 >>> programmer. Should I have to call myself a Flash developer from now on? >>> 3. I understand there were Flash developers around since the very >>> begining. They have expertise among other things in timeline effects >>> and sequential animation programming using tools like Creative Suite >>> (Photoshop etc) way out of my discipline of database RIAs. Do I have >>> to describe myself as a creative animator now? >>> 4. If this is v4 of something, shouldn't that be an update of it's >>> previous version 3? (In this case does Flex = Flash?) >>> 5. Is Adobe running out of trade names? (or running out of what?) >>> 6. Also what's the future of BlazeDS after recent marketing >>> developments on LCESDS (or is it LCDSES?)? >>> >>> BTW I used to think of Adobe as a technology company. Am I mistaken? >>> >>> Thanks all >>> George >>> >>> >>>