I've done the html, css, js thing too - started developing for the web in 1994, so I've been around the block once or twice too.
If you know everything about web technologies, past, present and future perhaps you should be heading up Apple. :-) And before you issue silly challenges to people you should try reading what they say in their posts, and try replying to what they are saying not what you *imagine* they're saying... Guy On 04/05/2010, at 11:40 AM, dorkie dork from dorktown wrote: > Guy, > > There is no way in hell I'm going to write an application in HTML5 and > Javascript. With Flash I can compile my code to a single swf. I've done the > HTML, JS, CSS thing dude. I've done both and there is no benefit to letting > everyone in the world see my code (no exaggerating here) or creating > prototype libraries in Javascript. > > Also, with Flash Builder I have nice debugging tools, a nice framework and > complimentary design and animation tools that integrate with it. > > You can have your HTML5. > > And any day of the week I'll accept a challenge to create an application. You > use HTML5 and I'll use Flex. ;) > > Cheers > > > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Guy Morton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Adobe is a ruthless competitor too; let's not forget that they shafted SVG as > soon as they bought Flash. > > > Personally, I find that harder to forgive, because it was about entrenching a > commercial advantage based on proprietary technology owned by Adobe and > blowing off a growing standard that competed with it. > > Apple is doing the reverse - blowing off a proprietary tech in favour of a > growing standard. Ultimately that's much better for the web ecosystem. > > And honestly, all the whining about this on this list is pathetically > self-serving. We all have to adapt, all the time. That's what keeps this > business interesting. > > I'll continue to develop in Flex for many years to come, I'm sure, but I'm > also getting across what I can do without it and using the growing > capabilities of modern web browsers. We all have the personal choice whether > to adapt or not. > > Develop Flash for Android if you think Steve's a jerk. I'm sure no-one at > Apple will care, for the moment at least. If Android becomes bigger than > iPhone *because of Flash support*, then they might re-think. :-) > > Guy > > > On 03/05/2010, at 11:17 PM, Battershall, Jeff wrote: > >> >> >> Let’s not get carried away here – no way is Apple going to stop supporting >> Flash on the Mac. That’s one of those “sky is falling’ rumors that always >> start up when something like this happens. >> >> >> The recent events are concerning as they potentially affect our mutual >> livelihoods, but really, there’s so much business out there it doesn’t >> matter. Personally, I think Jobs comes off has being biased and >> self-serving in his letter and clearly his ‘facts’ are skewed or outright >> wrong. He’s like, “Adobe thinks they’re going to play in my sandbox? Think >> again”. He’s a ruthless competitor, you give him that, but he’s also a jerk, >> if we hadn’t figured that out already. >> >> >> Jobs is really digging his status as an opinion leader in the industry but >> when he starts to outright attack another company’s business model, work >> ethic and so forth, he’s stepped over the line, and typically such tactics >> backfire. >> >> >> Jeff >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Mark A. DeMichele >> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:27 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Everybody is talking about “learning” another language. That’s the easy >> part. It’s porting an entire application that has several 100,000 lines of >> code. That’s that hard part. Someone mentioned losing flash support on all >> Macs. Is that true? I hope not. I have over a million users using my >> flash app and about 25% of them have macs. That would be bad. >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
