Speakning of the HEX and ASCII you mention below, I would assume that AMF is cross-platform, and that a developer such as myself standardizing all projects on it, will also be able to use Flash for Mobile Devices when (currently called Flex Lite; though I realize it's not exactly like the current version could do this; but is it possible and will it happen!).
--- Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Abdul Qabiz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > We actually used to tunnel the IIOP through HTTP > a lot to avoid this. > > > > AMF packets also go as HTP POST. Packets are in > binary format. > > > > > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flashremoting/mx/Using_Flash_Remoting_MX/ > > intro2.htm#1174485 > > > > > I'm curious exactlty what the stream looks like. We > used to try this > (well some folk like Iona did) by using an HTTP > OPEN, streaming the > binary, then closing the stream. All over HTTP > right? Nope. The > firewalls would peek into the stream and notice the > binary and slam > the door. The work around was the HEX encode the > stream. Now the > firewall saw only 7bit ASCII stream. Effectivly a > funny looking URI. > The negative was that you doubled the size of the > packets by HEX > encoding them. > > I'm curious to see what AMF looks like on the line. > Looks like fun > for a quiet Friday night <wink> > > In any case. This is a great thread. > > <your favorite curmudgeon ex-CORBA hack> > > -- > Dave Wolf > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > >> * 50% percent faster then SOAP or Webservice > > > Not true with GZIP turned on. > > > > Most of the developers find AMF faster than > SOAP/Webservices. That's > > what I have seen. > > > > >> * Automatic object > serialization/deserialization > > > So does XML web services in Flex. > > > > I think, AMF serialization/deserialization happen > at Flash Player(might > > be native) level where as XML parsing in Flex is > done by ActionScript. > > > > -abdul > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Dave Wolf > > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:42 PM > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF > solutions that work with flex > > > > A few comments. > > > > > * Binary transport > > > > So is SOAP when you turn on GZIP compression in > your container. And I > > would argue that binary transmission can be a bad > thing too. What if > > a firewall used on a corporate environment has > packet filtering turned > > on. Does that firewall have an AMF filter and did > the firewall admin > > know what it was? I spent oodles of time working > in CORBA. IIOP is a > > binary protocol and I cant tell you how often we > bumped intot his > > issue in a true distributed application. We > actually used to tunnel > > the IIOP through HTTP a lot to avoid this. > > > > > * 50% percent faster then SOAP or Webservice > > > > Not true with GZIP turned on. > > > > > * Automatic object serialization/deserialization > > > > > So does XML web services in Flex. > > > > > > -- > > Dave Wolf > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > > > > > > -abdul > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On > > > Behalf Of Dave Wolf > > > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:29 PM > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF > solutions that work with > > flex > > > > > > I do want to know why you're prefering AMF over > HTTP or WebService. > > > > > > Just curious on the motivation there. > > > > > > -- > > > Dave Wolf > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Clint Modien > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I guess I should specify that they don't need > to be open source at > > > all they > > > > could be 3rd party as well. (More than willing > to pay for a > > solution) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/21/05, Clint Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Anyone get any open source amf solutions to > work with flex? > > > > > Looking into this due for the most part to > the lack of amf > > > support in the > > > > > flex alpha release. I'm also guessing that > this is what MM will > > > release as > > > > > the non enterprise version of flex. So I'm > looking for > > alternatives > > > to > > > > > webservices and httpservices. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > > FAQ: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > > > Search Archives: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
