Yeah Flex2 has its own things to work through. I guess you could even do a RPC call at the start of the application to fire of a command line ANT script (for the other stuff). All a little wierd though because you dont have control over when the ant script runs versus's application compilation.
Either way process will be worked out. It would be cool to collect some of them to see how different people are doing it. Renaun --- In [email protected], "Johannes Nel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i have not been able to get mxmlc working like i want to in flex2 using ant > yet. (i spent about 30 minutes trying so...). my approach for unit tests in > flex2 is currently to have a second entry point (mx:Application) in my app > and basically having 2 bowsers open, one running my unit tests and one > running my app. this is a valid config for flex 1.5 using the webapp model. > ant does a lot of other stuff however that you will never get using that > approach, like svn integration and the ability to inspect the flashlog file > after something has run. > > On 3/22/06, Renaun Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I totally agree with the reasoning behind the longer compile times for > > streamlined build process that take quality control into account. I > > just wanted to make sure I wasn't losing it. For the life of me, I > > was stuck on thinking that speed was the main factor in the reasons to > > use mxmlc. Thanks for helping me get over it, lol. > > > > I really like the Flex 2 build/debug as you go capability. But you > > are right there needs to be a good process in place to handle tests > > and compiling issues for large applications, and using build scripts > > and mxmlc are perfect way to (semi-)automate it. > > > > Renaun > > > > --- In [email protected], "Johannes Nel" <johannes.nel@> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>My question then would be, is the speed of compilation a main factor > > > >>in the choice of compilation methods? > > > > > > well as i orignally stated the appserver approach is the fastest, so > > if its > > > speed you are after, yeah go for it. some of the larger projects i have > > > worked on has taken up to a 1:30 but thats rare. use of swc's and > > the like > > > can speed things like this up substantially. > > > > > > the fact of the matter (IMO at least is) that i would take much slower > > > compilation speed for a streamlined process that highlight bugs quicker > > > (unit tests for example) and the flexibility that ant gives you, > > since in > > > the long run you save time > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/22/06, Renaun Erickson <renaun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The use of the multiple targeted build scripts (unittests, app, or > > > > all) makes sense. > > > > > > > > My question then would be, is the speed of compilation a main factor > > > > in the choice of compilation methods? > > > > > > > > It sounds like there are other factors that depend on the development > > > > teams practices that weigh in the to decision then just speed of > > > > compilation. > > > > > > > > In regards to just the factor of speed, on an application with roughly > > > > 50 .mxml and 50+ .as files whats the typical compile times? 20s-30s? > > > > > > > > Renaun > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Johannes Nel" <johannes.nel@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > this is both for develpers (developer chooses which target to > > compile - > > > > > unitests,app or all) and our continues integration server. we only > > > > deploy a > > > > > swf to production. > > > > > > > > > > On 3/22/06, Renaun Erickson <renaun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Johannes for insight. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this what you do as a developer on a dev box? Or only on > > the major > > > > > > builds on the deployment (staging/production) servers? > > > > > > > > > > > > Renaun > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Johannes Nel" <johannes.nel@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hear hear on what david says. using ant we > > > > > > > update from svn > > > > > > > build unit tests app using mxmlc, if all tests pass > > > > > > > use mxmlc to build app > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so yeah it has its benefits :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so it is critical to the process as > > > > > > > On 3/22/06, Dave Wolf <gatorj24@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That depends what you mean by better. In Flex 1.5 you will > > > > find very > > > > > > > > quickly that the JIT server compiler leaks memory very badly > > > > and wont > > > > > > > > work with an application of any real size. For any kind of > > > > serious > > > > > > > > application the server compilation simply wont work for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We use mxmlc called from autoamted ANT builds. We're pretty > > > > attament > > > > > > > > about it all. We have a very well designed build and source > > > > control > > > > > > > > process that has made real impacts on the quality and > > > > reliability of > > > > > > > > our solutions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, performance isnt stunning, but given that its a two pass > > > > > > > > compilation thats not shocking either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're hoping for some marked improvement in Flex2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Dave Wolf > > > > > > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > > > > > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email: dave.wolf@ > > > > > > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Renaun Erickson" <renaun@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After some more reading I am under the assumption that for > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > > of Flex 1.5 apps its better to use the Java web server > > access to > > > > > > > > > compile with caching on. Is this correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renaun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Renaun Erickson" > > <renaun@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ## This post is in regard to Flex 1.5 ## > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have finally got around to trying out mxmlc and > > fastmxmlc > > > > > > with a xml > > > > > > > > > > build script. The purpose was to see if it was faster > > to use > > > > > > mxmlc to > > > > > > > > > > compile on my development environment versus using the web > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > (accessing the mxml by a url). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not seeing a big difference in compile time between > > > > the two > > > > > > > > > > methods. I tried RSL's but dont think they are setup > > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My big question is how do I get my compile times down on > > > > my local > > > > > > > > > > development machine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renaun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > > > > > > > FAQ: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > > > > > > > > Search Archives: > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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