I've used as2patters and then moved to cairngorm for Flex.  I think you will just find it very clean and simple to use.  If your looking for advice on which side to choose, just try out the cairngorm flex2 sample login and I think that you will see how simple the framework makes Flex.  In other words, I would use cairngorm forward on.

 
On 4/20/06, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Maybe, you need to know how to play the pipes before you can correctly
say it, eh?  Heehee

DK

On 4/20/06, judah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  What I want to know is how do you say it? Is there history behind the name?
>
>  Judah
>
>
>  Steven Webster wrote:
>  Oh man, I write a 6 page article series and still people go on and on
> and on about ViewLocators :) We innovated the ModelLocator pattern in
> Cairngorm, and have done our best to communicate the practices around
> using the ModelLocator, over ViewLocator (a relic from our Flash RIA
> days).
>
> Cairngorm and ARP are both implementations of the same design patterns;
> so the approach in terms of breaking down your application's technical
> architecture over a microarchitecture will be very similar. You'll
> start thinking in terms of all the same concepts, you'll approach your
> application development the same way. The frameworks are more similar
> than different, imho.
>
> We took a very strategic decision with Cairngorm, only to support the
> Flex framework; the framework started life in the Flash world, but we
> believed that Flex would become the defacto technology for building RIAs
> of any complexity that merits a microarchitecture, and so have made
> conscious decision not to support back to Flash or any other Flash
> platform technologies. In that way, we can focus on leveraging the Flex
> framework without concering ourselves deeply with how this translates to
> the non-Flex world. We do have developers using Cairngorm on Flash
> projects - but that's not the expected use-case.
>
> There's a 6-page article series on Cairngorm on Macromedia Devnet,
> starting here:
>
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html
>
> We'll continue to make these articles available to you through devnet,
> and through blogs, to enable you to be successful in building more
> complex RIAs upon this architecture, and to guide you in how we think
> the architecture fits with new features of the Flex framework, be that
> States, Internationalisation, Flex Data Services, etc.
>
> If you follow that article series, you'll be ready in a few hours to
> start building RIAs today, with Flex 2 and ActionScript 3.0, on
> Cairngorm. As we start to move through the final betas, and into
> release of Flex 2.0, a number of us within Adobe Consulting are
> absolutely committed and ready to ship the community updated versions of
> Cairngorm as required - we're using it on a significant number of our
> own Flex 2.0 projects here, and are a step ahead of the public beta
> programs that you have access to.
>
> There's a huge number of people on the flexcoders list successfully
> using Cairngorm; so once you have more specific questions, I'm sure
> we'll be able to help you in your application development.
>
> Good luck !
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> Best,
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>  On 4/19/06, JesterXL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  If you are coming with Flash, stick with ARP. If you want to learn
> something new, try Cairngorm as it has a VeiwLocator. Most Flex
> developers utilize Cairngorn, but both know what a Command,
>
>  Delegate,
>
>
>  ServiceLocator, and ModelLocator is so the lingo is very similiar
> since they have a lot in common.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "arieltools" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: < flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:11 AM
> Subject: [flexcoders] Flex framework: ARP, Cairngorm...
>
>  Which to use?
>
>
>  Arp? Cairngorm? ...?
>
> A little of you light on this matter would be appreciated.
>
> I've been using ARP for a while with Flash projects. I've read that
> migrating would be as easy as change the ArpForms to MXML
>
>  forms. So it
>
>
>  sound very promising.
>
> By the other hand, I've heard Cairngorm is more wide-spread between
> programmers.
>
> The thing is I think I have to decide now wich to use, as I will be
> programming a new RIA on Flex and would like to ensure it's quality
> from the begginning :)
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> Thanks!
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