Actually, I have to take it back. This answer doesnt quite get to the issue, and I realize I probably didnt fully make the question clear.

The alternatives are not two flex apps or one. The choices are
1. one flex app or
2. one flex app and a flash website.

The issue is that I am not very good with making super cool graphics in basic flash. If I put my mind to it I can do it, but its not my strength. So needing to do two separate apps significantly increases the amount of time I am wasting doing something I am not particularly good at. In flex I could do something cool and I could do it quickly. So there is a time value of money issue here vs. will users get frustrated by the wait time. If I had the time and/or the skills to do a good flash site (or heck even a good html site) efficiently then I would probably just do it because it would be smaller. But this involves real world tradeoffs of time and resources so I need to know how acceptable people think a flex download is for a website.

Regards
Hank

On 7/3/06, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok, so it sounds like I have one vote for keeping it together and one vote for separate

On 7/3/06, Richard Kroll < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hank,

Think of what you are trying to accomplish, and how each fits into your
overall business.  It seems to me as though you are trying to merge your
application with the more marketing related website that sells it.

I wouldnt say I am *trying* to do anything other than ask what people think is a good idea on this front. From a work load perspective it would be easier as one app. But that *is* the question.

So it sounds like I have one vote for (bjorn) and one against - you.

Thanks
Hank

 

  If
you look at these two things as distinct entities, it makes much more
sense to separate these into separate files with their own source code,
progress bars, (potentially) domains, etc.  This would reduce the load
time for users just coming to check out your software, and have the
additional benefit of keeping your source for the app completely
separate from the code you use to sell it.

HTH,
Rich

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Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:01 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] app startup / load times

On 7/3/06, Richard Kroll < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> Hank,
> One thing you have to keep in mind is that Flex 2.0 is tailored to web
> *applications* instead of to web sites.

This is the rub. I am doing an application, but I am debating as to
whether to put the intro stuff into a separate flash app so that the
"website" part of my stuff can open more quickly. Most applications
still need the website-ish stuff to tell the user why they should care
and what the app is.

Basically I am wondering whether I really need to go through that
extra effort of making a separate thing in order to improve startup
performance. I *really* dont want to. I am lazy. And flex would allow
me to do that intro so much easier. But if the startup time is really
annoying to people I dont want to loose potential users because the
startup was too slow.

Now that flex is mainstream, I am sure lots of people are dealing with
or thinking about similar issues so I just wanted to get peoples
thoughts. I'm really hoping people will convince me not to worry about
it, but I am open to being convinced that I need to do a two stage
site.

When a user starts up a typical
> application, a 8-10 second delay prior to the application to start up
is
> not an unusually long delay for startup. Most Flex apps that I've seen
> to date are starting up in the 3-5 second range, which I believe is
> completely acceptable.

I agree that 3-5 seconds is totally ok. I have no idea what the real
world experience will be for most people and 8-10 seconds was just a
guess based on file size and guesses about the low end of average
connection speeds.

Regards
Hank


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