Re: [flexcoders] Are there any good flash fonts that will work well in flex

Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:47:46 -0700

Pixel fonts are better because there is no uncertainty about how the font will be rendered. Some human being looked at each letter and decided what pixels should be on and off for a specific size. This is critical for fonts in user interfaces where the algortithms for converting from font outlines in truetype are not as good as the human eye.

In the past I have used fontsforflash.com, but as I remember it they dont do fonts in multiple sizes and you have to tell everything it has to be 8 point. I am not sure how this would play in flex. But they have something called super pixel fonts which are fonts that are hand rendered but have anti aliasing.

So I guess at this point I will just try some of the fonts at fontsforflash and see if I can make it look good in flex.

Regarding standards for fonts in interfaces 7 is way too small. On my PC it looks acceptable, on my macbook I need a microscope. I would like to see some *slightly* larger fonts than flex uses available that look good. If you increase the fontsize in flex, the default font(verdana I guess) starts to look ugly.

Regards
Hank

On 7/19/06, Kevin Mulvihill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
mini-7 is a font. you can find it at myfonts.com. uni 05_53 is also a font but it's not at myfonts.com. (i kind of like suprexy ce; any comments on this font?) saffron is a font rendering engine, not a font.
 
what i'm wondering is, is there a standard for font size in interfaces? mini-7 is a 7 point font - it seems too small. are there any standards / best practices in this area? i know sans-serif is a standard, just not sure about the size.
 
also, why are pixel fonts better? and who would have the best selection of them?
 
thanks,
kevin
 
 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hank williams
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:44 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Are there any good flash fonts that will work well in flex

Sorry Jesse, but I didnt quite understand what you were saying.

is mini-7 a font? Where can I find it? Same for uni 05_53?

And I assume saffron is a truetype font and you are saying even though it is a truetype font that it works really well in small type. Is that right?

Hank.

On 7/18/06, JesterXL < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I believe you are correct; advanced anti-alias only works on embedded fonts.
 
If you don't embed the fonts, however, there is no guarentee the user has them, thus they can't be seen unless you embed them.
 
If you are looking for small fonts, yeah man, I'd stick with bitmap fonts, like mini-7; he's pretty cool, or uni 05_53.  Still, Saffron does work on smaller fonts better than Flash 7's "small type", so not really a need for bitmap fonts unless you want to port your style to Flash Lite later on.  Besides, you can turn off the advanced anti-alising if you don't like it on a specific control.
 
I couldn't get Machine gun to work because he's an otf (Open Type Font), but Skannerz looks hot.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Are there any good flash fonts that will work well in flex

I have experimented extensively with fonts in flash 8 and in flex and while they look better than flash 7, there is nothing like pixel fonts for interface. Of course also probably a lot is dependent on the specific true type font. I would imagine that some work better than others, but I am not satisfied with what I have been seeing, hence the desire for some crispness. By the way, I dont think advanced anit-alias works on device fonts, only embedded.

But thanks for the font references. Have you tried any of these in flex?

Regards
Hank

On 7/18/06, JesterXL < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Keep in mind Flash Player 9 supports Flash Player 8's new Saffron font engine.  So, if you embed the font in your CSS, you can use the mofo, and she'll look hot.  Don't forget to turn advanced anti-aliasing on.  I believe Flex 2 utilizes _sans; which is basically Verdana (device font).  Anyone confirm / deny?
 
Here's some good fonts:
 
 
 
Careful... you can't buy just one...
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:01 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Are there any good flash fonts that will work well in flex

One of the key things to defining an apps look and feel is fonts. But I find that truetype fonts just dont come out looking as good as flex's built in bitmap font. But I really dont want to look like every other application. In flash I know there are companies that sell great fonts, but I am wondering if anyone has anyone has any specific experience because working with some of the fonts I am familiar with you had to be careful to, for example, always specify one font size.

Anyway, any recomendations would be appreciated.

Hank



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