Re: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] [flexcoders] Re: Choice of backend systems - which provides

Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:58:05 -0700

Cheaper than 6k? I am not sure I understand your question.

I am saying that adobe's remoting tool used to be around $1,000. FDS is $20,000. You are right that $6,000 is far cheaper than $20,000, but 6k is too expensive when compared to their previous offering of $1,000. Currently I am using FDS Express, which is free, but when I need to scale the price will jump to $40k.

I am not sure how php fits into this. My code is in Java.

Regards
Hank

On 8/24/06, Bjorn Schultheiss < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What are you using at the moment that's cheaper, PHP?
 
Regards,
 
Bjorn Schultheiss
Senior Flash Developer
QDC Technologies
 

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On 8/24/06, Shannon Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
$20,000 for remoting and not other FDS features?
 
Last I checked, ColdFusion server was around $1300/server, unless you needed enterprise, which is $6000/server.


Can you confirm that you can cluster with the non-enterprise version? Even still, you are right that 6k is less than 20k, but for me, 6k is still too expensive for remoting.

Hank
 

Shan

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On 8/24/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not Neccesarily.
When you start talking dedicated server prices can get quite high.
Chassis, Power Supplies, Bandwidth man the costs keep going up.

Hmm... bundling hosting/bandwidth costs into the cost of the server is really a slippery slope. I was refering to one time costs. And its *hard* to spend more than 5k on a 1 cpu server. Of course if you need a 20 terrabyte raid thats another thing. But that would not be normal. Of course *all* the costs of doing business could be applied as a form of burden on your technology implementation and the analysis just becomes silly.
 

With FDS i think the alternative is how much will it cost your development team to produce the same result using another method.
 
My take, I will be using FDS in our v2 development of our Application.

My point is not that FDS is good and worth using for many applications. My point is that for the cost of remoting (not all the other FDS features) to go from $1000 (the old remoting price) to $20,000 per server for apps that need to scale beyond one server is insane, and that when my app, which only uses remoting, gets to the point where it needs to scale, I will probably switch remoting technologies since it will be more cost effective than the $40,000 (for two servers) that I will need to spend.

$40,000 as the entry price for a scalable solution is really too much for my blood. For many companies 40k is nothing. But that aint me.

Regards,
Hank


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