Well, I wouldn't have wanted to start such discussion ... but I was necessary ;)
In the matter of facts, I knew tha it was a bad design but it was that I needed. Only I needed was a TabNavigator that shows the look & feel for the users; the navigation behaviour I'll control through the buttons ... that's all. By the way, the specifications have been changed so I had to change the design, withput tabs ... :( But, really thanks to all for the discussion. I learned a lot by reading the posts. Regards. Javier.- --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Hoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good deal. Cheers. > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Andrews" <ac297@> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Hoff" <TimHoff@> > > To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:47 AM > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: How can I block a TabNavigator ? > > > > > > > Alright Paul, let's talk about assuming that the best way is YOUR > > > way. Without knowing the actual use case, comments like "bad > > > design", "accomplice", and "horrors" are a bit arrogant, when it > > > comes to helping someone solve a problem. > > > > Well, I had expected the list to be a bit more than giving out > nuts and > > bolts advice about how to do something, no matter what. I > certainly am not > > some great arbiter of UI goodness, nor am I the UI police. As far > as being > > arrogant, well, in many respects I thought that what was being > planned here > > was clearly wrong from a UI standpoint. I could probably have > added a few > > more smileys because some of my comments about the matter were > intended to > > be tongue-in-cheek. > > > > >Javier didn't ask, "What > > > would be the best design choice?". He asked, "Can someone help > > > me?". Without more information, criticism is pointless. There > may > > > be a very good reason for developing a solution that uses a > > > TabNavigator this way. When you judge people without knowing > all of > > > the facts, you better not live in a glass house. > > > > Well, I do live in that glass house and I have produced some > appalling user > > interfaces over the years and I wish someone had pointed out to me > then why > > what I was doing was wrong and how it could be done better. I hope > that my > > comments will make Javier really think about what he's doing and > if he's > > still happy to go ahead with it, educate me as to why it's a good > thing > > given his situation. Maybe I can learn something. Javier can take > or leave > > my comments, I'm not stopping him going ahead. There may be a load > of people > > here who think as you do that I'm just an interfering so-and-so, > but I think > > a lot of people will also have thought about the principle thrust > of my > > comments - is it right to take a UI metaphor then break it so it > no longer > > works as expected. They may not agree with me, but some will think > again > > about things. > > > > Javier may well have good reason for what he's planning. I can't > see it and > > if Javier still believes in it I hope he'll teach me something > new. It may > > be that javier has been handed this design down and may have no > choice about > > it. I have no quarrel with Javier at all. > > > > > By the way, isn't an accordion just a view stack with buttons; > in a > > > slightly different visual representation than a TabNavigator? > > > > The tab navigator is a really old metaphor than goes way back and > is based > > upon a physical filing system. Everyone knows how it should work. > The > > accordion is very similar in behaviour. If somebody suggested > using an > > accordion and blocking the accordion navigation (clicking on > accordion > > titles) and replacing it with buttons, I'd feel pretty much the > same way as > > I do about the blocking of the tab navigator. > > > > My comment about the accordion was because there are plenty of > examples of > > it being used in Flex to do a similar job to what Javier seems to > want to > > do; it wasn't my intended suggestion to use an accordion with > blocked > > navigation and buttons on the accordion panes. > > > > >So, > > > it's OK one way, in a perfect design theory oriented approach, > but > > > not the other? > > > > No. See above. > > > > >Not so impressed with the quality of response. > > > > Sorry. > > > > >When > > > you berate someone for asking a perfectly good question, it > serves > > > no-one. Anyway, not trying to make you into an enemy, but > > > compassion is one of the true indicators that we are more than > just > > > animals. End of sermon. :) > > > > I have never intended to berate anyone. I've been critical of this > UI > > approach and it's nothing personal against Javier. I'm not sure > where > > compassion comes into this - I'm not feeling sorry for anyone or > sympathetic > > to any plight! I'm still unrepentant about the idea of messing > with the > > tabs.. > > > > Tim, you aren't my enemy and I appreciate your comments - keep > them coming. > > > > Javier, if I have upset you, I apologise. It wasn't my intention > and I hope > > you'll go forward with a solution that suits you and that at least > I've > > provided some food for thought. > > > > Paul - returning to that glasshouse to fix some panes.. ;-) > > > > > -TH > > > -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! 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