WebOrb seems indeed very powerful and promising. I would love to see
some integration between the php version and CakePHP :)
On 10/6/06, barry.beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why isn't WebOrb all over the dev center? Why isn't Adobe pushing it?
>
> why the heck should they push it?!? In my eyes they're doing
> bugger-all to help the CFEclipse IDE which also supports an Adobe product.
>
> midnight coders has their own revenue stream. they stand or fall by
> the products they sell/give away.
>
> Adobe (and Macromedia before) are (IMHO) doing a lousy job in
> promoting ColdFusion to other than the already converted. (might
> change for CF8... wait and see).
>
> it's disheartening to see so much promotional effort spent on Flex
> ("ColdFusion? what's that, an ice cream?") and then find Adobe are
> quite happy have ColdFusion upstaged by RonR with a GPL licence for
> remoting.
>
> Remoting for CF (and I just mean the simple AMF0/AMF3 stuff) was a
> feature that had real value to leverage CF sales because the
> alternatives were AMFPHP (IMHO PHP isn't as RAD as CF) or the
> expensive Java or .NET remoting (remember them? almost as expensive as
> a CF licence).
>
> the expensive ColdFusion licences are killing us CF'ers. My gut
> feeling is that the good sales figures thrown around on CF7 licences
> are only reflecting churning/upgrades.
>
> Faced with a FREE solution in RonR with FREE remoting, for core
> features ColdFusion starts to look really expensive. The fact that
> ColdFusion has remoting too is now a valueless selling point: Remoting
> is now a "me too" product.
>
> and yes, I realise RonR and CF are not equal, CF seems to have better
> integration to both Java and (hopefully) other Adobe product. But for
> core features and a section of the development market I've got a
> strong hunch that RonR will eat deep into the PHP world and - by
> extention - affect CF sales. ColdFusion is already being attacked by
> .NET (by gosh! it has remoting too!)
>
>
> > By promoting WebORB it would be good for the community it would be good
> > for Flex.
>
> yes it would be good for Flex but weborb does nothing for ColdFusion -
> an Adobe product. winners and loosers.
>
> to me it seems Adobe has dropped the ball on Remoting. I just can't
> work out why it didn't provide the solutions (at an affordable price)
> themselves and leave very little room for Weborb to exist. they had
> heaps of time to build for different platforms.
>
>
> bah humbug!
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